• Singletona082
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    #DOES THIS SURPRISE ANYONE?!

    It was never about ‘criminals.’ It was about creating an ‘other’ underclass that can’t fight back, and persecuting them to draw attention and focus away from the real problems.

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      draw attention and focus away from the real problems

      …and the additional ones intentionally created just so a few morons can get even more power.

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      I think there’s quite a few brown people in America surprised by this. I’m not sure how that’s possible but it is the reality of the level of political engagement we’re dealing with in this country.

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    First they came for the immigrants

    And I did not speak out

    Because I was not an immigrant

    Then they came for the trans people

    And I did not speak out

    Because I was not a trans person

    Then they came for the trades unionists

    And I did not speak out

    Because I was not a trades unionist

    Then they came for the non-Christians

    And I did not speak out

    Because I was a Christian on paper

    Then they came for me

    And there was no one left

    To speak out for me

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      First they came for the immigrants

      And I spoke out, because I knew the rest of the fucking poem.

      But no one listened, and I screamed futilely into the cloud until they came for me.

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    “Thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we’re a nation forever young, forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leading the world to the next frontier. This quality is vital to our future as a nation. If we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost.”

    -fucking Ronald Reagan.

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      I mean… It’s good for the fucking economy and national security. The whole, growing economy thing… I’ve never played a 4x game and thought… better stop producing food and encouraging population growth before I have too much production capabilities and the resources to trade for diplomatic power. (This isn’t reddit but mandatory disclaimer hoi4 and Stellaris antixenos are a vocal minority 😬😅)

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        Republicans love illegal immigrants

        • they’re great as unprotected group to attack to distract from their lack of helpful policy.

        • they’re a great thing to campaign on for their racist uneducated voter base

        • they can appease big buisness by giving them labor for slave wages domestically

        There’s a reason Republicans attack leagal avenues to immigrate, and lower border security to let more people in illegally.

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    “I’ve always said, we might be from the same country, but we are 100 percent in agreement that if someone harms someone that person should leave,” Marian said in Spanish. “But I never made that comment thinking it could happen to me and my family.”

    So frustrating

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    They never said they wouldn’t come for migrants without criminal records; they only said that they’d target them first. So if they come across other migrants in their targeted search for those with criminal records, they still consider those to be valid arrests.

    edit: to address the comments: I said that they think of then as valid arrests, not that I did.

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      How does having immigrated here make the arrest valid if they didn’t even commit a crime? Also why do you seem to believe them when they call it a targeted search when there have been constant reports like this one of random people getting picked up, some not even immigrants?

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        They said targetted first, but not exclusively. I don’t like whats going on. But it is being portrayed as a surprise. No one should be surprised by this. If anything it hasn’t been as bad as predicted… yet. Overall, thier goal is actually fear. They hope that will deter others from coming in so they can declare what a good job they did securing the borders. And the idea of scared immigrants makes thier base happy. So it’s win win for them.

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            Sadly no. Since the dems took the easy route and used executive orders instead of actual laws passed by congress, trump can just cancel that order. And bam, he is now illegal. Worse, because he tried to go the legal route, they knew exactly where to find him.

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              Yes, everyone is aware that they can change laws on a whim in a fascist dictatorship to suit their agenda. That is not what people are discussing.

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                The comment I responded to literally asked how it could be illegal… you maybe on the wrong thread.

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                  They were very clearly asking how it could be illegal in America as it was before it became a fascist dictatorship.

                  What you’re doing is telling someone something can be illegal if it’s made illegal. Which, no shit. No one here is so stupid that they don’t understand that laws make things illegal.

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        They consider just being here illegal, thus committing a crime.

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      I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt since you said they consider them to be valid arrests, not that you do. The crime is, of course, not being white.

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    Legal or illegal migrants. That’s the only distinction that matters. Illegal? Bye!

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      Carlos was in the US legally. He followed the rules, entering the US under a government asylum program.

      “He came to the U.S. from Venezuela in November through CBP One, a mobile app created by the federal government used by asylum seekers to schedule an appointment in the U.S.-Mexico border. Migrants who secured an appointment were allowed in the country temporarily while they await their immigration hearing.”

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      It doesn’t fucking matter. Illegal or legal, they do not deserve to be sent to Gitmo. Nobody deserves to be sent there.

      Or are you somehow arguing that concentration camps are fine, for some people. Then let’s hope you don’t belong to a group that becomes the other in the future.

      And apparently they also arrest legal immigrants now. So eh… well done, I guess.

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      You know they’re being put in Gitmo, right? The place where the worst of the worst terrorists are supposed to go? You’re okay with that? That’s the level of crime you think they’ve committed?

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      I’m “glad” to see Kaboom has some competition for once.