• db0
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    If you were wondering what you would be doing when Hitler started building concentration camps and loading up the trains…you’re doing it right now…

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        Newspapers were effectively the lemmy of that time

        • @[email protected]
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          Technology has improved though, giving us the power to yell at people in the comfort of our homes when the news makes us mad.

  • @[email protected]
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    2014 hours ago

    You don’t need an offshore camp with nebulous legality for deporting immigrants. There’s already somewhere to send them and you don’t care if they go free. Pretty damn useful for domestic opponents though.

    • @[email protected]
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      2414 hours ago

      I cant still understand how americans decided that putting up prisons and managing them should be privatised.

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        Prison profiteering has been going on since at least when the civil war ended. It’s a crucial foundation for the imperial “economy”.

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        It began in the 1980s, when Republicans went full-throttle into privatization.

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          Really, it began it’s current form when other slavery was outlawed, so states started capturing free slaves for “crimes” and leasing them out to their former owners. It’s only a small evolution from there to today.

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            Slavery is independent of prison ownership. You’re referring to involuntary servitude versus the abolished chattel slavery. Privatization is an additional layer of systemic oppression.

            Private prisons may or may not partake in indentured servitude. In addition to participating in the constitutionally protected slavery, they have far more systemic problems than public prisons. The goal is to spend as little as possible to meet minimum legal requirements in order to maximize profit (it’s a business, after all). Many of these for-profit prisons are infrequently or improperly evaluated, leading to far worse conditions than governmentally run prisons. There have also been countless cases of people being denied parole to maintain minimum headcount.

            Modern private prisons first emerged in 1984 when the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), now known as CoreCivic, was awarded a contract to take over operation of a jail in Hamilton County, Tennessee. See comment below for link to the origins of private prisons.

  • @[email protected]
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    6320 hours ago

    Who else remembers past Presidents campaigning on closing Gitmo, then dropped the subject after getting elected?

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      Because it’s a very popular issue with the voting public but the voting public doesn’t have any recourse if you renege on your campaign promises.

    • @MolecularCactus1324
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      Obama signed an executive order to close it, but Congress and the legal system slowed it down.

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        90 senators, including Bernie Sanders, rejected Obama’s 2009 funding proposal that would’ve closed the camp. And with good reason. Obama’s move would’ve simply moved the prison onshore while continuing the indefinite detention without trial, potentially legitimizing the practice further and providing a clearer legal precedent.

        Yes, he technically tried to “close Guantanamo Bay” but in a way that wouldn’t adress the actual reasons people want it closed.

        Sanders’ statement:

        “A number of important questions remain unanswered regarding the rather complicated issue of not just how you close down the facility, but what you do with the prisoners,” he said in part. “In order to answer these questions, President Obama has appointed a high-level committee of top administration officials who will be issuing a report in the coming months. I think that it is prudent to review that plan they develop before we spend $80 million in taxpayer money.”

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        Where is congress and the legal system now?

        • @Jhex
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          Still there… proving, once again, that racism and the love of money is indeed embedded in America’s everything

  • @someguy3
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    Belle of the ranch pointed out it costs more at gitmo because you have to ship everyone and everything there.