• @x00z
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    43 hours ago

    I have the feeling the first thing the new owner of this domain does is to get it the hell away from a domain stealing registrar.

  • @Randelung
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    JavaScript and PeePee are really going at it, huh.

  • Salamander
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    I find it strange that they are out-bidding each other like this when there are over 8 days left. I am not too experienced with bidding, but I thought that the normal strategy was to maybe place a placeholder bid if there is no activity, but more generally one waits until the last second to set a reasonably high bid. Going on a 1v1 with fast out-bidding over a week early seems bad for everyone except the seller. Perhaps someone can explain.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]
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      I noticed the same - it is strange. And a lot of times they’re raising the prices much more than necessary to outbid each other.

      In special, half of the bids come from a single person, j_s_0e6b87. They’re bidding since the beginning, and seem to follow no strategy - sometimes bidding $10 more than the top bid, sometimes way more. Either they’re stinking rich to the point they don’t care about the money, or they don’t really care about the address, and want to inflate its price for whoever actually buys it.

    • @Evotech
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      The bidding gets extra time when people place a bid near the end, so you can’t just snipe it.

      • Salamander
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        Ah, bidding technology has advanced since I sniped Tony Hawk Pro-Skater for the Nintendo 64 on ebay. Why start bidding over a week early, though?

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    Update: it’s now US$1921.00. Some PP (p_p_822628) is trying to outbid JS (j_s_0e6b87), who has been competing since the start.

      • VindictiveJudge
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        I’m guessing one of them is a hexbear admin and the other is a troll.

        • @[email protected]
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          Hexbear admins decided pretty much right away not to engage in the auction. The bidding war is probably between someone with too much money and hate for hexbear, and an agent of the auctioneer driving up the price.

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          The admins have stated that they don’t care about the domain, so it’s probably either a troll or the crypto coin people trying to gain the domain.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    Relevant to note that every other bid comes from the same bidder, j_s_0e6b87. Here’s what I’m guessing about them:

    • They likely know about Hexbear, since they were bidding on the address right off the bat.
    • They aren’t a domain squatter. A domain squatter would try to minimise the amount of money spent on a domain; and yet they’re bidding too early, too frequently, and values considerably higher than the necessary to be the top bidder.
    • They aren’t using automated tools, since the the times and values between the others’ bids and theirs are too erratic.
    • Either they don’t plan to actually win the bid, OR they have lots of money (to the point that US$710 is pocket change for them) and really, really bad blood against Hexbear.
    • @Ledivin
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      It’s 2025, $710 is pocket change for anyone who can still afford to eat.

      I bet j_s_0e6b87 has eggs at every meal

      • FundMECFS
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        What the fuck man?

        710$ is like 65% of my monthly expenses.

      • @[email protected]
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        -415 hours ago

        It’s 2025, $710 is pocket change for anyone who can still afford to eat.

        That’s seriously out of touch, check your privilege.

            • @Ledivin
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              I really don’t believe that’s anywhere remotely close to true.

              • @[email protected]
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                You not believing a thing, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening, it only means you’re either not paying enough attention, or choosing not to look, in all likelihood to preserve your own comfort. So I’ll say it again - take your head out your ass, and check your privilege.

                • @Ledivin
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                  You believe one thing and I believe another. Why don’t you take your head out of your ass and look around? Nobody seriously believes that nobody is struggling right now.

    • @[email protected]
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      The other possibility is that its 2 hexbearites who are trying to save the site, not realising they are bidding against each other. Would be pretty silly if that was it.

      • @mkwt
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        I went and read the hexbear thread on this. Here’s some summary from over there:

        • Current hexbear admins lost the domain because the registration was controlled by a single inactive / flaky admin.
        • hexbear admin stated an intention to bid in this auction to get their name back.
        • chapo.chat is a temporary domain solution only.
        • they are also deciding on backup names if they don’t win the auction
  • @[email protected]
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    Guys, they already switched to chapo.chat, all you’re doing is emptying your pockets to give to some criminals.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’ve been quietly observing hexbear for a while now and I can tell you with relative certainty that people love to straw man them.

      Here is an example:

      People say they outright deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre, which is not true. They do believe 300 or so people died in that tragic day. What they do deny, though, is that Tank Man himself was run over by a tank and that people where indiscriminately shot and run over by tanks in the square. They believe the shootout occurred not because China is evil, but because some of the protestors decided it was a good idea to start killing unarmed soldiers.

      I’m not going to describe in detail hexbear’s timeline of events and evidence for it, because I myself do not fully understand it yet. But it seems this video somewhat explains it well.

      People insist time and time again that hexbear users believe the massacre never happened to the point where they can’t bother explaining themselves anymore because “what’s the point if we are just going to get straw manned?”

      People also like to call the massacre a “genocide”, which is a massive overstatement. In comparison with the kill count of the holocaust, the death toll of the massacre is a rounding error. I would like to kindly ask people to stop calling it a genocide, as it detracts from the meaning and intensity of the word “genocide” when it is miss used like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_genocide_theory


      Any who, can’t wait for people telling how wrong I am for supporting hexbear despite never once saying they were right.

      People say they brigade other instances, but that’s just because they are very active. In fact, there are one of the most active instances on Lemmy.


      This is not to say hexbear users are angels, far from it. They are known to not mix well with other communities, and their site culture can put people off quite a bit, and understandably so. They all also known for their custom emojis, which is a really neat feature their instance has, but they do like to use an emoji depicting a pig defecating as a way of saying “you take is shit”, which is rather unpleasant and quite rude of them.


      These are just my thoughts on hexbear anyways. I must say I don’t really hyper analyze any instance, so I could be somewhat wrong, but I don’t really care too much.


      NOTE: right now hexbear is using chapo.chat as their temporary fall back domain.

    • @[email protected]
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      Once upon a time there was a reddit sub called chapotraphouse. It started as being centered on discussion of a leftish pro-Bernie podcast of the same name but quickly exploded in popularity and became more about general left politics discussion. Over time, especially after Bernie’s defeat in 2016 it shifted more and more left. The sub became a specter haunting reddit, having over a hundred thousand users. Eventually because they tolerated too much talk of killing slave owners (Spez famously said he thought if the world went to shit he’d probably be one of the people in charge of the slaves rather than one himself) as well as other things like being anti-cop they were banned in a both-sides-bad move along with The_Donald by reddit admins right after Trump lost re-election. This was after being quarantined some months previous. After that they built a lifeboat site for their users to gather at, that site eventually came to be a lemmy instance and eventually even later a federated instance so they were one of the first instances.

      It’s a leftist lemmy instance. Nominally left-unity with rules against just launching hate tirades against anarchists or Marxists it in practice leans Marxist though has plenty of anarchists, democratic socialists, etc. It’s strongly anti-imperialist so tends to align with Marxist, Marxist-Leninists more than many (but not all) western anarchist groups on global geopolitics. It has stances that many Marxist parties would take issue with however including communities around drug use (the site is banned in China) and certain ideological beefs not really worth listing out here. It is in other words it’s own unique culture.

      In addition to being a leftist instance its posters are aggressive. People on reddit constantly complained and worried about CTH brigading (whenever the discourse in a front-page sub shifted left people would say that chapo was doing that) and though organized brigading seemed infrequent compared to how often people suspected it*, many of its users were incredibly active posters and there were a lot of them. So it has a kind of shit-poster history. Whereas some instances would just ban someone or remove their comments, they’ll spam images of a pig pooping on its balls at people they disagree with first. Their way of interacting with those they disagree with is very strident and at times could certainly be interpreted as rude, they’re very blunt and don’t tend to do civil discourse. They can be antagonistic to an extent though it’s not like they’re a harassment site that will follow around an enemy user for days outside of their own instance.

      *(it did happen in as much as they posted links to comments and posts they disagreed with until the quarantine when they stopped doing that, BUT they were accused more often than they could possibly do so as most of the sub was not about making posts like that)

      And it should be mentioned they did have strong policies against bigotry which were enforced. They also had a large trans community. So they weren’t fascists. They were not reactionaries. They did not have a culture of hate for marginalized groups. I’ve certainly had unpleasant interactions with users of theirs but I’ve also had pleasant ones. Some of them come off as real assholes, many don’t.

    • Lad
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      It’s an instance for Communists. Unpopular with the liberal/moderate Lemmy crowd.

    • ArxCyberwolf
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      Hexbear is (was) an instance that’s become infamous for the awful behaviour of its users in other instances in the past. They are mainly authoritarian communists (often known as Tankies) who like to yell at people for having different opinions and especially love to troll.

      To expand on this for those who weren’t around during the days when they were federated with most instances, Hexbear’s users are needlessly hostile towards anyone who disagrees with them, they had a bug that caused their emotes to become oversized on Lemmy which quickly flooded threads when their users spam them, and they have a reputation for brigading threads to “dunk” on people. They also really like to flood threads with graphic images of pigs shitting on their own testicles, because that’s definitely what normal people do.

      It’s worth noting that they don’t federate with other instances to participate in good faith, they do so in order to dunk on people and “dismantle Western propaganda” and “plant the beans of truth in other instances fields” and in general act in bad faith. Worse, their instance admins did little to stop this.

      They were defederated from many instances for good reason, as their behaviour drove away a lot of new users. A lot of Hexbear users have alts on lemmy.ml and midwest.social, so the defederation doesn’t stop their users from continuing to be dickheads.

      And if you’d like some receipts, I have plenty of examples. Best viewed from an instance that federates with Hexbear, so you can see their behaviour for yourself.

      https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347 https://lemm.ee/post/4543536 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2017079 https://lemmy.world/post/2498330

      Edit: A tankie already got upset about this post, love to see it! :P

    • Miles O'Brien
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      An extremely outspoken instance filled with people who simp for fascist dictatorships but ultimately consider themselves communist and some socialists.

      Most would call them “tankies” due to their willful denial of the 198(9) Tiananmen square massacre as “western propaganda” despite non-western sources agreeing it happened outside of China.

      Imagine if super outspoken trump supporters had an instance and spent a lot of time trying to lecture other people about how they’re wrong when nobody spoke to them in the first place, then when presented with facts and logic they would respond with gifs, emojis, and a lot of claims that you’re a CIA front/shill.

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        The “June 4th incident” was in 1989, not 1984, and neither Hexbear nor China says it never happened. Hexbear’s stance, and most Marxists in general, on Tian’anmen is that hundreds of protestors and PLA officers were killed in Beijing that day as the PLA advanced towards the square, but that the square itself was evacuated peacefully, which matches leaked US cables and the CPC’s official stance on what it calls the “June 4th incident”. This is a rejection of the commonly reported story of 10,000 people being killed on the square itself, which originated from a British diplomat’s cable. Said diplomat was later confirmed to have evacuated well before.

        I reiterate, Hexbear’s stance isn’t that the massacre didn’t happen, but that Western nations intentionally sensationalize the quantity of deaths and the character of the events. This is also why Western Nations don’t frequently report on the South Korean Gwang-Ju massacre that occured around the same era, where the South Korean millitary murdered thousands of High School and College students protesting against Chun Do-Hwan’s dictatorship. All of what I said is backed up by the Wikipedia page for Tian’anmen Square Protests and Massacre, such as Alan Donald revising his estimate from 10,000 to the low thousands yet BBC continuing to report the 10,000 figure:

        In a disputed cable sent in the aftermath of the events at Tiananmen, British Ambassador Alan Donald initially claimed, based on information from a “good friend” in the State Council of China, that a minimum of 10,000 civilians died,[237] claims which were repeated in a speech by Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke,[238] but which is an estimated number much higher than other sources provided.[239][240] After the declassification, former student protest leader Feng Congde pointed out that Donald later revised his estimate to 2,700–3,400 deaths, a number closer to, but still much higher than, other estimates.[241]

        You’re also just wrong about what fascism is and what AES states were structured as, so I recommend Blackshirts and Reds.

      • OBJECTION!
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        1984 massacre 700 gorzillion dead gommunism no iphone Animal Farm vuvuzela.

        Checkmate tankies.

    • @Ledivin
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      Specifically authoritarian communists, to be clear. They aren’t fighting for everyone to have what they need, they just want to be leaders of repressed people.

      • Where is that Parenti quote…

        If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

        It was from Blackshirts and Reds.

        • @Ledivin
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          Awwww, someone went as far as making an alt to attack people instead of defend themselves! It’s almost as if what I said is true and you can’t argue against it, only deflect 🤔

          • @[email protected]
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            This account is older than my hexbear account so that one is actually the alt. And I go on hexbear, I’m not deflecting lol it’s just true. Saying they “just want to be leaders of repressed people” is just laughable when they have things like a mutual aid comm that actually helps people and is probably the most aggressively anti-transphobe instance

  • @[email protected]
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    I’m kind of tempted to buy it…

    Edit: you can’t tell me it wouldn’t be funny to host an instance the exact opposite of what hexbear stands for right now at its URL

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        Oh I don’t. I just want to troll the hexbear people. Make it opposite of what they are. It’d be hilarious

        • @[email protected]
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          The opposite of hexbears ideology would be Nazis, you want to run a Nazi site.

          Man Canada needs to just be the US’ 51st state. Birds of a feather and all that.

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            Exactly my point, I get the trolling aspect, but like… Seriously think about it for more then a moment lol.

            A silly troll idea would be to do a non-hexigonal and non-bear related imagery lol.

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              I think the overwhelming majority of Hexbear users would rather the domain go to a silly joke troll like that than redirecting to something like a transphobic site.

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                I assume the op didn’t mean fascism, but they just bought into the general narrative around Tankie on lemmy being bad lol

                But yeah exactly

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                  That general narrative is pushed largely by ONE (or 2/3 at the most) user(s). While the supposedly evil tankies are just bing chilling on ml and lemmygrad

                  Tell me now dear viewers, who is the greater evil here?

                  I won’t name that filthy cunt because .world admins would love to silence non-establishment voices, but you can trace the anti-“tankie” posts and find them all the same

          • @[email protected]
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            What? Isn’t it a tanker instance? The opposite is one rooted in western isms. Either that or I don’t know as much about hexbear as I thought

          • @MothmanDelorian
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            Wouldn’t the opposite of Hexbear’s ideology be actual Marxism?

  • @[email protected]
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    Hexbear.net now at 710$ (Update: it’s now 1921$)

    figure before $

    image shows conventional placement of $ before figure

    Can someone explain selective blindness of where to place the dollar sign ($) when correct examples stare people right in the face?

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      Convention is different everywhere, $ value and value $ are both seen in Canada for example, former being more common in English, latter in French

      Like . vs , for decimal notation, people are going to use what they’re familiar with.

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        $ value and value $ are both seen in Canada for example, former being more common in English, latter in French

        Canadian conventions vary by language. In English, I’ve only ever seen $ then figure.

        The ISO currency code can go after (eg, 1 USD, 1 CAD).

        It’s a national convention: Wikipedia claims that in all English-speaking countries (and most of Latin America), the symbol precedes the amount.

        If they’re a non-native English writer, I guess that would explain it. An awful lot of people in the US seem to do this, too. 🤷

    • @[email protected]OP
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      At least it reflects the way the number is said. Or would you say “it would cost them dollars 1921”?

      • @topherclay
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        The way the number is said? You mean

        “dollars nineteen twenty one” or

        “dollars one thousand nine hundred twenty one” or

        “dollars one nine two one?”

          • @topherclay
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            Am I supposed to say those quotation marks out loud or am I just supposed to know how they work when written down?

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        English writing isn’t English speech & doesn’t model it accurately: for that, there’s IPA.

        If breaking established conventions for written English is a ploy to draw attention, then mission accomplished I guess?