A war would be disastrous for both countries. Especially the US.
As President Donald Trump relentlessly threatens to annex Canada, some Canadians are worried that an American invasion could one day become a reality.
How would that scenario play out? Looking at the sheer size of the American military, many people might believe that Trump would enjoy an easy victory.
That analysis is wrong. If Trump ever decides to use military force to annex Canada, the result would not be determined by a conventional military confrontation between the Canadian and American armies. Rather, a military invasion of Canada would trigger a decades-long violent resistance, which would ultimately destroy the United States.
But in this nightmare scenario, could Canadians successfully resist an American invasion? Absolutely. I know this because I have studied insurgencies around the world for more than two decades, and I have spent time with ordinary people who have fought against powerful invading armies.
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The US would initially run over Canada. Let there be no mistake there, it always does. Saying this as a proud almost Canadian, this US armed forces will overwhelm any country in the world.
Having said that.
The US hasn’t won a single war since WWII. It’ll overwhelm whatever country it invades and then inevitably gets it’s ass kicked from here and back to the US again. Anyone remember Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq?
If the US decides to invade Canada, it will sign it’s own death certificate.
The piece you’re missing is that all those wars after WW2 they weren’t fighting to save the world. They were fighting to line the pockets of the military industrial complex (and big oil) that sprouted up around post WW2 America. The goal wasn’t to “win” it was to funnel as much money into the pockets of several already rich and powerful cunts as possible.
If there was actually a threat to American citizens and we wanted to delete that threat entirely we would have absolutely no issues completely leveling pretty much any foreign nation with or without nukes.
Canada’s actually military would be a speed bump for ours. Nothing.
But dealing with the global backlash and potential escalation to nuclear war would be an unmitigated disaster for not only the US but the whole world.
We may not know exactly what would happen in the fallout after the hypothetical invasion but I think we can all agree it would be very bad for pretty much everyone on the planet.
First he’d need to convince the army to follow his orders. It’s a lot harder to paint Canadians as “evil minorities” in order to get the rank and file to “just follow orders”.
We’ve seen it happen 1000s of times in history. Soldiers do as their told. If Trump says invade, it will happen. They are purging any internal resistance as we speak do in a few months, if he says invade we will get invaded.
Resistance is not futile, the USA has not prevailed (single-handedly) against resistance movements in any country of our size in their history. IEDs are cheap, effective, and relatively easy to make. Canada has farms with fuel oil and fertilizer, and lots of firearms.
It’s even worse. The US hasn’t won against an insurgency ever in its entire history. And really, it hasn’t won a single conventional war since WWII either to be honest.
While one side would be forced to fight for its right to exist, the other would be forced to weigh the costs of doing an occupation for decades. Not to mention the hit to moral and public support, which in turn translates to support from your own military.
Frankly speaking, I think the US’s own military would refuse to move if ordered, and Trump’ll have to replace most of the leadership to make them comply. And even then, there’s the thought that most of the soldiers themselves wouldn’t want to raise arms against their longest standing ally.
I have always been a peaceful and patient person, but there is no way I’m letting a fascist foreign government take over. I would gladly even suicide bomb a foreign invader if it thrwarted their advance and protected my adult kids , and fellow country members, future.
please stop radicalizing yourself and others.
Who’s radicalizing? There’s no US invaders on Canadian soil, what are we radicalizing against?
A fascist takeover of Canada would inevitably result in a guerilla war. This is just a fact.
There’s no religious agenda here, just defending my own country, the same as a military enlisted would do. How do you think we are here today and not living a Hitler regime; people gave their lives for their country. Is Remembrance Day a poppy celebration of radicalism?
I dunno, I look and sound just like an American. I know I’ll die in a real takeover but it doesn’t mean I won’t do some homemade devices and grab an arm to defend my country.
Many of Canada’s firearms are outdated in a military sense and the government has been continuing to ban more guns. Many fire arms currently owned by canadians would have already been considered obsolete by the cold war, especially if we are comparing our stockpile to America’s.
You’re just as dead if you’re shot by a Ross rifle or Lee-Enfield as by a whizbang gizmo-addled wank-rifle with 10 attachments and a CDROM drive.
Sure, but a magazine of 5 in a semi automatic is still a lot less shots than a magazine of 30 in a fully auto rifle. Modern military body armor has come a long way and being a neighbour, america has many naval and air bases already built and fully loaded within striking distance. A surprise strike could significantly cripple canadian military resources.
Yeah, I don’t think anyone is arguing that the Canadian military wouldn’t get roflstomped in hours. It’s more about the insurgency afterwards, I’d say.
Not all the American occupiers can be armed and wearing body armour 100% of the time. They have to sleep and piss occasionally.
Asymmetric war is just so asymmetrical.
Yep, people will fight hard to defend against a foreign invasion. We’re seeing it with Russia and Ukraine right now.
If you think about it, all we have to do is each Canadian has to eliminate 10 Americans. Not necessarily kill, just remove from combat. That can be through befriending so they stop fighting, incapacitating through a biological agent against which, as Canadians we have been vaccinated, diverting to another enemy, or actually taking out. And really, we’d only have to target the white combatants, the way they’re going nowadays.
Facetiousness aside, I agree with your point. And thanks for sharing. What we probably have to watch out for is thd cultural warfare that recruits Canadians against Canada.
Nah
Canada has to kill only a few thousand soldiers and the US population will be ready to revolt
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Oh yeah – thin the invaders just a bit and then
RELEASE THE GEESE
it’ll be over in a day.
Which part is the fantasy? A US invasion, Canadians fighting back, or me eliminating 10 Americans? I see two as medium probability, and one as high probability.
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It seems like you didn’t read the article. On top of that, as an experienced veteran, third in my sniper course, with a background working with and training insurgents (which should tell you what kind of veteran I am), and time in intelligence, I am certain that 10 soldiers is well within my capacity. And I come from a family that includes five ex-military, two ex-intelligence, three connected to undercover work, and other creative fields. There are also several people in my family experienced on cybersecurity red teams, and there are even two with banking systems experience. One of my cousins has been consulting on counter drone warfare, and several of us work with electeonic counter-measures techniques. My family alone could do serious damage.
We certainly wouldn’t be stupid enough to engage in frontal combat with american troops. We’re talking insurgent and resistance warfare. Extremely brutal variations. In the extreme, since we can pass for the current ideal american, we would likely engage in infiltration and sabotage activities.
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Here’s the thing. How well did America do in its first guerilla war, Vietnam? How well did it do in its last guerilla war, Afghanistan? How well do you think it would do if those guerilla soldiers looked pretty much like them, talked pretty much like them, and had a similar culture? Why are you banking on better? Was it the longer supply lines that lost the two wars I mentioned? Was it the lack of troops on the ground? Because those are the only two advantages America would have in a war with Canada as opposed to the other two I mentioned.
There is no way Canada’s military can stand against America’s, you’re absolutely right. If America decides to, they will invade Canada. That by no means guarantees a peaceful or successful occupation. And Canada’s military leaders aren’t idiots. I doubt they’d even meet America’s military in the field. But I bet you’d see a whole bunch of freedom fighters who used to have uniforms in their closets.
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Glad I could make you smile. Sounds like derision is your default mode. That must make you hard to hang out with for extended periods.
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Idk how it won’t end well for him given how he ran out the clock and didn’t see a single day of justice.
That was Trump v. The American legal system.
If it comes to a head on confrontation; it’d be Trump v. Canada in gorilla warfare. We’ll bring our own justice, and probably add a few more pages to the Geneva Conventions while we’re at it. We’re good at that.
Wait. We have gorillas in canada for warfare? Or is that US?
Apologies,
Guerrilla* warfare
Though gorillas could be a good wildcard…
Well that’s just prime.
I understood that reference! Bonus points for Canadian content.
They’d need flannel
Do we have any rules against gorillas in war?
Would you like some? 🇨🇦
The next thing will be trump visiting Canada and another staged “assassination” to galvanize the less intelligent Americans into supporting “peacekeeping” in Canada.
Or they’ll just dress someone up as what they think is Canadian in the US and try the same line down there.
I never thought I’d say this, but bring back George Dubya
This is a hopeful expression,but it’s written from a dreamers perspective.
Canadian civilians don’t know what this means. Canadians don’t have a culture of resistance, there is only a dream that rights and values are immutable.
Compare that to the Finnish, or to the Baltics. Ask a Finn what they will do when the Russians come, and you will get a detailed response, with both vigor and realism. Balts will either stand or falter, but with a true understanding of the reality of their situation. Those people have been defending their sovereignty for decades - like the Ukrainians.
I’d love to see the Canucks resist, like I’d l9ve to see the Yanks hold … but they haven’t even seen the examples of Belarus and Hungary- they don’t even u.dersrand what they are fighting.
In a fight, the Americans will roll in and take Toronto, and Montreal, they’ll bomb a few bases, they’ll blockade Victoria and Vancouver and the block the passes, then they’ll blockade the Eastern shipping lanes. The prairies will cheer, poorly treated migrants will shrug, sofa warriors will fizzle … them what is left? US supply routes will be stable and simple, and they’ll attack without risk. What can guerilla tactics do in that scenario?
Canada is five large cities, which are easy to capture, and an entire USSR-size back-country of rough terrain, which would be nearly impossible to patrol and hold in the face of even a mildly resentful populace. You don’t have to have the entire population actively fighting - passive resistance would make it difficult to do anything in the face of shrugs and "I dunno"s.
Resistance fighting can be picked up pretty fast, and in the face of brutal American reprisals and repression, I think it would be. Their history in Afghanistan and Vietnam shows that they’d create an entire generation of people out for revenge VERY quickly.
We would hide our insurgents, and they would fade into the mountains and forests. You don’t need a lot of active insurgents to cause a huge problem.
We have cheap drones and abundant weapons. We’re one of the more gun-infested countries per capita, and have a porous border with the USA.
It’d be a hell on Earth. They’d never hold the Rockies.
Resource extraction operations. Forestry and mining are easy to disrupt, especially if the local labour doesn’t like the occupiers. There are a thousand ways to gum up the works, and a thousand more to attack them and fade away into the surrounding forest.
I’ll give you the forest guerilla function. They can be close to the resource targets that the Americans will immediately move to appropriate. I will also give that they will get popular support, so they won’t starve.
I do think that you underestimate the impact on rural and small town populations that the American propaganda has had. There’re full maga & 2A groups in Lindsay and Nelson who are flying their F Tr flags at this.
Who will our insurgents comprise of? (Honest question). Aside from a small percentage of the population that has had weapons training (active and reserve military, police force, hunters) the vast majority have never touched a weapon before…
Yeah, you’d think it’s easy for the US.
Just as people thought Iraq would be easy
And Afghanistan
And Vietnam
And yeah, the initial invasion is easy, it waltzes over anything as a hot knife slices through butter.
Then, however,.comes occupation. What is it worth invading and blockading if you can’t own it? And this is where the US always has failed and will continue to fail in the future too. You can bet your furry Canadian butt that Canadians will resist and hard.
Same goes for Mexico btw. If the US decides to invade there as hinted as multiple time, expect US soldiers to be hanging from bridges with their private parts stuffed down their throats, they have quite a bit of experience with how to handle that.
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You realize your next door and
What do I need to understand about my next door? I’m confused.
You seem aggressive.
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Lol, this guy joined 6 days ago. Obs a shill, bot or troll. Ignore, and move on.
