cross-posted from: https://gregtech.eu/post/7570120
Title. It seems like the police just chose a random person to have someone to prosecute.
I haven’t seen enough of the evidence to know. I feel like everyone in power has decided he’s guilty, but there hasn’t been a trial. I don’t think it’s wrong for people to have their opinions on a personal level about his guilt, but I am not willing to at this point. Honestly I was leaning towards guilty until I saw how the cops were parading him around. I don’t trust that behavior.
Can’t be. I was with him at the time of the murder.
Me too! What a great time we all had not doing murder.
I believe he was the shooter, and that he should be found not guilty.
Unlikely, but there’s always jury nullification. Which I just realized would be recorded as a “not guilty” verdict, though the implication is “he did it, but we think it’s OK”
iirc jury nullification doesn’t always stick because they can declare a mistrial if it seems fishy.
I believe he deserves a presumption of innocence as is his constitutional and human right.
He may have pulled the trigger but Brian Thompson loaded the gun
Call me jaded but I am not predisposed to take the NYPD at their word.
People seem to forget about the innocent until proven guilty part, the raw amount of perjury with the theater surrounding this person is mind-numbing. If he makes it out of this he will be come a billionaire out of defamation alone, almost all mainstream news sources treated his guilt as a foregone conclusion with barely an “allegedly” in sight.
No I don’t believe he is the shooter, even if he is the shooter he should be found not guilty. Those CEOs caused millions of deaths with their denial claims, that man got what he had coming "unfortunately. "
Not guilty regardless.
Likely him IMO. Very unlikely that they’ll be able to go through a highly-publicized trial with broad support for him and pin the wrong guy, so my general attitude is “let’s see what happens”
That’s exactly how I feel.
Probably, judging from his responses, but the courts can figure it out.
Doesn’t matter. He did nothing worth punishing in any regard.
No, but it doesn’t really matter. The government has selected its scapegoat. I just hope that the jurors understand what jury nullification is before they go in. Gawd knows the courts don’t want anyone funding out.
Whoever it was is a hero
Fuck no! Clearly just a scapegoat
Yeah. So let me get this right, this dude planned everything, but didn’t throw away any proof. Instead he kept every single thing on him, even with a note about how he doesn’t want to cause the police much trouble, but once he’s caught he denies everything? Wat?
^ this is why education is important. Please learn about your country’s punitive systems.
Where has he denied doing the shooting? He’s pled not guilty to specific charges like first degree murder and terrorism; that doesn’t preclude him from having done the shooting in question.
The former and latter behaviour also occurred before and after receiving legal advice, respectively.
Wellllll, if I was on the jury, I would be able to be convinced by evidence that he did it. Still wouldn’t go along with conviction, but that’s a different thing.
That being said, assuming all information publicly available is true, then he probably did it, or did it alongside someone with the plan of him taking the blame.
But that is the assumption that would have to be made, and I don’t assume that. I assume that the prosecution has to make a jury believe it. I’m damn near absolutist about not making a final judgement on my end until the person has had their day in court. Since it’s a fact that police can, will, and have manipulated evidence, have gained false convictions because of it, and sometimes prosecutors will go along with that, there has to be something a lot more definitive than what’s been shown in this case for me to state that he did it.
Since this was a high profile murder, the stakes are high enough that it is entirely possible for there to have been collusion between law enforcement agencies to rush a suspect into custody and fake a case around them. That’s as the extreme end of possibility to the extent that I seriously doubt it, but it’s possible.
So, the real answer is that I don’t believe much of anything about the case. If I believe something about it, that’s a matter of faith, not fact, and I simply don’t have enough facts that are proven to my satisfaction. I can still admit that he’s probably the guy, but that’s beside the point.
Thing is, in full transparency, the only thing the killer (be it Mr Mangione or someone else) did wrong was taking out just one target, or the wrong target, depending on how you look at it. A CEO is just a sock puppet for a board of directors and majority shareholders most of the time. Killing a CEO is like killing the sergeant of a unit; it’ll disrupt things, but it isn’t crippling. There’s still generals giving the same orders, and then have a new flunky in place in no time. A CEO is just the easier target because there’s only one of them.
You want to disrupt a major company like United, you have to go after more than one piece of the apparatus.
