Man, it is hard to find a positive outlook headline lately. I wish it was half as depressing as it is.
Can’t wait for the conspiracy theory that Hitler is alive to turn out to be true, and he just comes out of hiding, thanks Trump, and takes over.
10 to 1 the voters didn’t make that choice.
Meh, she was a willing member of a brutal organisation that terrorized multiple countries in wars of aggression. If you have more reverence for her then for, say, a Russian naval officer, then you don’t have principles, you just have rump nationalism.
This is about competance and leadership decisions, not moral equivalence fallacies.
Considering what might be coming, maybe it’s better if America has incompetent military leaders. This is a huge mistake that Hitler didn’t make.
Imagine putting a fucking bird on your chest for forty years, saluting a piece of fabric, sacrificing your family and shit.
40 years of putting on that clown makeup and they just stick the nose on someone else.
I don’t personally believe in what she believes in, but it’s perfectly reasonable for someone who grew up during this country’s Reagan era to truly and genuinely believe that serving in the military is a valuable and fulfilling purpose that’s greater and more important than the needs of a single family.
Maybe it’s clown makeup, but wouldn’t it be nice to feel some sense of purpose in your life rather than spending it shit talking people on the internet?
some sense of purpose in your life
I like to live my life and find purpose in it without shooting brown kids for oil.
She was lied to. She can join us. Big Tent Energy.
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What kind of bird, though? Like, we talking a chickadee? A northern flicker?
That took a turn for the based at the end.
Bruh, if they keep doing this, Olympus Has Fallen’s plot is gonna seem realistic
(Can we just get Morgan Freeman instead of whatever this dumpsterfire we got?)
I think you mean Civil War (2024).
That was low key a good movie… Although Kirsten Dunst is like my celebrity crush.
Although Kirsten Dunst is like my celebrity crush.
Nuh uh, she’s my celebrity crush.
Her smile is enchanting
You’re going to have the war last year? That’s certainly ambitious.
No, but I live in the Plex/Jellyfin world of unambiguously naming movies by adding the year of the release in parentheses.
they should call him PUS instead of POTUS.
Putin’s under study?
PoS
Putin’s Orange
TeenagerToddler Undermining Stability
And You know what’s even worse? They did it a second time. After he fucked them over the first time.
Asking my Trump-voting Navy dad about this, wish me luck fam
Well what did he say
Nothing of value =/
It’s been 10 hours, I don’t think they survived
What I’ve found works in exposing their bias and letting you know you’ll never get an honest opinion is reversing the positions.
When news came out in his first term that Trump was having Lou Dobbs on conference call during important meetings I asked my dad “did you hear that Obama used to have Anderson Cooper on conference calls during important meetings?” and naturally he says “of course he would, that’s pretty messed up they shouldn’t allow that kind of stuff.” then I apologized for lying and said “it was actually Lou Dobbs and Trump.” again naturally he then changes his tune “oh, well Lou Dobbs is a respectable journalist, that’s different…”
Ok thanks dad, I now know I can never trust your opinion. It changes based on whether it’s your team or not.
“Did you hear biden’s son in law was the ambassador to Ukraine? And right after he stepped down from his position, Ukraine invested 2 BILLION dollars with his company? Yeah that’s messed up. Oh whoops, it was Jared kushner and Saudi Arabia, my bad.”
I hit a guy with that one. I actually got him to say yeah they should investigate that.
inb4 “she must have been up to something, they wouldn’t just fire her for no reason”
Clearly an unqualified DEI hire, luckily she’ll be replaced by a ‘qualified white male’
/s cause that made me vomit.
Ooo… Do provide an update.
Checking in for later
If we traveled back in time 10 years and started showing people these headlines, they’d put us in a mental hospital.
No, 10 years ago was after the birthers and Palin. Call it 20
Lol “the birthers” as if that wasn’t mostly trump.
To be fair, we have a former actor and comedian as the president. The difference is he isn’t a fascist piece of human garbage, not so much in the career paths.
From what I’ve read, Zelensky as comedian made intelligent political and anti corruption criticism. Making jokes about the bad things in life, highlighting them, setting the stage for something being done about those problems. Broader than his on screen personality, he had middle class beginnings and on the back of his comedy work, he build a successful career as TV producer/executive. You probably know more about this than I do.
Trump as TV personality looked more like the most clueless person in the room, while all the actual work was done by others behind the scenes. No intelligence, no social commentary. Before his role in the apprentice, Trump had started his business career as a Nepo baby, and as a businessman he had failed every venture that he had tried, each time leaving a bloodbath of unpaid bills behind, a reverse Midas. And once his face was known from TV, he started with large scale scams like Trump University.
Those are 2 very different career paths.
Yeah it’s the difference between John Stewart and Steve Harvey
Man, I fucking hate Steve Harvey. He’s such a piece of shit.
I ponder that sometimes. I wonder if a comedian has made such a solid leader because a comedian’s role to society is to speak truths that go unheard, and to make unbearable times bearable. I find myself questioning if every leader shouldn’t be a comedian
Reminds me of this character in Watchmen. Calls himself the Comedian, but never makes “jokes” in a classical sense. He is cruel, overly patriotic, violent against protesters, seems to enjoy massacres in Vietnam. Only one other person understands that he is actually against these things and tries to show them this hyperbolic mirror of their own totalitarian views. But everybody else doesn’t understand it, they take it face value and admire his “patriotism”. He never breaks role until the last moment (or even then just in the movie?).
as i recall the characters who get “the joke” are the comedian, rorschach, ozymandias, and dr manhatten, each of whom respond to the trauma of getting the joke entirely differently. the comedian embraces it, laughs at it, lets it consume him. basically decides “the world is fucked up, i might as well personally have fun.” i don’t recall him ever showing any sympathy towards the world. his terrible actions are ultimately justified by that he is the stand-in for captain america: his violence is government backed. the crucial difference between captain america and the comedian is that captain america represents what america could and should be, a future for us to work towards, whereas the comedian represents what america is, a present for us to move away from. i think that aspect is a very clever piece of writing by alan moore as the time when he was creating the watchmen was very politically different from when jack kirby was creating captain america. i’ve been thinking a lot lately about how incredible jack kirby’s explorations of fascism, militarism, and jewish identity are all through his career. i think alan moore did jack kirby justice in taking a lot of captain america’s tropes and superimposing them onto a fascist. i think jack kirby did an incredible job of showing us the lunacy of nazis in his super villains (something i didn’t give him enough credit for until this year when i saw how these freaks operate when the mask of respectability is removed), but by alan moore’s time, the value of an aspirational symbol for what america could be was diminished as america turned more and more fascist, making super imposing captain america’s tropes onto a fascist felt uncomfortable and upsetting. but also, having now seen trump voters up close and personal, it’s incredibly accurate to the mindset. both jack kirdy and alan moore did an incredible job depicting fascism in the hopes we the people would see their work and grow and change.
unfortunately not enough of us did
Entirely Unironically:
AOC for Pres, Jon Stewart for Vice Pres, 2028.
This campaign would stand a chance at actually winning.
AOC and Stewart are both well known, basically celebrities.
AOC is actually capable of recreating the mix of genuine charisma combined with well articulated, meaningful actual policy points that Obama did in 07.
Jon Stewart is obviously no stranger to politics, and is possibly the literally ideal ‘attack dog’ that the VP usually plays in a campaign, for an anti corporate / billionaire campaign.
Let AOC be as principled and erudite as JFK and Stewart be as cutting and ‘no bullshit’ as Lyndon Jonhson.
…
Are either of them perfect?
No.
Are they basically the best possible options?
Well, Bernie is awesome, but he’s too old.
Absolutely utilize him as much as possible during the campaign, be at every rally, fucking have him be the head of a leftist version of what Elon is, god knows by the time 2028 rolls around, the executive will have formally and informally assumed way too much power.
Put Bernie in charge of purging the Trump/Elon pukes, directing the revokation or countermanding of everyone of Trump’s executive orders, undoing Citizens United, and reassembling the checks and balances.
…
Other than that… are any other democrats or leftists anywhere near as well known and widely, generally liked by non fascists? Who aren’t bought and paid for by corpos?
Some surveys seem to support that this direction could have worked. As a German, I supported the course of the Democrats to go with a presidential candidate and policies that democratic conservatives could get behind. About half of the voters in the US want less democracy, more totalitarianism. For a chance to stop Trump, it seemed reasonable just get all supporters of freedom and democracy behind a single candidate. But maybe I was wrong.
I have my doubts that there will be an election in 2028.
About half of the voters in the US want less democracy, more totalitarianism.
Apparently a recent poll said 71% of Trump voters are against cuts to Medicaid and SNAP (food benefits for very poor Americans).
So… that would mean more than 2/3 of Trump voters are astonishingly stupid, ignorant, easily swayed into a cult, as these cuts were very obviously the intent of Trump, and outright stated goals of Project 2025, which was created almost entirely by former Trump administration staff.
… But, that makes sense, as the average adult American literacy level is that of a 5th grader (10yo to 11yo), and 21% of adult Americans are functionally illiterate, with literacy skills at or below a 2nd grade level (7yo to 8yo).
I have my doubts that there will be an election in 2028.
As do I.
Krasnov 2028?
Asteroid YR4 2028.
Redirect! Rebuild!
rofl
Ya know, this sounds downright plausible. More so than any other ticket I can imagine anyway, middle-of-the-road corporate democrats sure are played out, but hey, from what I understand the Dems literally argued after the election about whether they didn’t go left enough or didn’t go “center” enough, so.
I think it might be part that and part the fact that the war happened in the first place. Like, before the full scale invasion, he really wasn’t that remarkable. But I guess sometimes hard times do actually make strong men.
Yeah but plenty of leaders have been absolute shit under pressure is kind of my point
The last supposedly Ukrainian person I talked to here was very anti Zelenskyy and wanted him to just lay down arms. What’s your opinion on the matter? Do you want your country to keep fighting? Do you qualify for the draft yourself?
Those seem to be quite loaded questions.
I myself would be neither for nor against Zelenskyy, if it was peace time. Normally, there would have been elections last year, so there would be a non zero chance we would have had a different president already, if not for the war. But, since that’s legally not possible right now, here we are, and I’m not about to go protest in the streets demanding to have elections as soon as possible.
That said, I am very much against being occupied and invaded. While also not willing to be drafted myself, since I know I would be quite useless on the battlefield. So the best I can do right now (to help in the war, that is) is to keep donating money for the equipment for our army.
I recognize I’m being hypocritical, since I wish to be protected without having the resolve to enlist myself. But I also recognize that, were I to enlist, my value in actually protecting Ukrainian lives would be very low.
Given the current state of Ukraine as a going concern, I can’t imagine anyone seriously bragging about their vote for Zelenskyy.
Gave us a good hard look at what the Jon Stewart Presidency would have looked like.
Given the current state of Ukraine as a going concern
Three successful years of holding their own against everything Russia can throw at them? I’d say that’s freakin’ amazing and a ringing endorsement of Zelenskyy’s leadership!
Ah yes, because clearly Zelenskyy is solely to blame for the current state of Ukraine. I guess he’s mind controlling half of the world leaders simultaneously and playing 5D chess with everyone.
One would think you’re his biggest fan the way you’re giving him credit for everything that’s happening in the world.
Hey the best people are the ones who toe the line
Let’s not pretend it was ever anything different
My understanding is that Obama encouraged frank expression of different opinions in the Cabinet. Not every leader values blind obedience.
a large portion of the electorate doesn’t choose anything. they do what their televisions command them. who controls the targeted messaging platforms which have been poisoning people’s minds? they are the real enemies of The People.
This. I’ve had heated discussions with people who can’t believe someone from outside of their country knows more than the average citizen (read: himself) knows about the country’s politics.
It’s called educating oneself in preparation for consequences of having an elephant in a china shop. It’s also what prudent, sensible adults do. Smfh.
Hopefully this’ll convince more people to turn out for the midterms and do their due diligence.
Nevermind the consequences of gerrymandering, targeted disenfranchisement, and winner take all electioneering.
Trump won the GOP primary in 2016 in no small part because our electoral system rewards name recognition over policy or popular support.
You either submit to media manipulation or you are statistically removed from the voting rolls.
Twice
Not “elected” once, but twice.
I’m pretty sure soliciting a foreign adversary to interfere in US elections twice isn’t being elected, it’s committing treason. I’m hoping to buy his gallbladder off eBay for scientific research once the lynching is over
