What era in time do these people think R’s are trying to conserve to, after or before civil rights?

  • @[email protected]
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    Typical conservative reasoning: “I don’t mind banning abortion, because I personally will never be affected”

  • @I_Has_A_Hat
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    A gay republican; or, as they’re more commonly known as in the LGBT community, a “bitch-ass traitor”.

  • @[email protected]
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    “Dear Republicans. When I voted to have people’s rights stripped away and their lives ruined, I didn’t think it included me!”

    Eat shit, asshole.

  • @[email protected]
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    392 hours ago

    Just one man’s opinion, but I’d rather have the picture and discussion here than a link to reddit.

      • @KillerTofu
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        Quite likely a troll account.

    • @Pr0x1moOP
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      Did the picture not show up for you here? I’m using old.lemmy.world so i can see it on my end

      • @[email protected]
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        228 minutes ago

        I don’t know why octopus posted that or how it has the most votes, because you didn’t post a reddit link. I am using the Voyager app and I can see the image.

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        I had to click through to reddit though. (And FWIW it did not link to old.reddit)

        Not giving you a hard time though, just grumpy about reddit because reddit. :D

        In any case it looks like you edited it and it loads fine now… 🙂

  • @[email protected]
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    313 hours ago

    I know very little about gay rights history in the US but in a quick search I learned that the supreme court case that made same sex marriage legal was put forth by a Democrat.

    Another thing is that I’m under the impression that the Replublican party is very much a Religeous party that does not reconize anything outside Men-Women relations. I’m always confused to hear about gay Republicans.

    • alaphic
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      I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you can’t be half as confused as they must be… 🤣😂 I mean, maybe I’m misremembering things here, but I feel like the GOP-at-large just recently (like within the last decade?) stopped publicly referring to homosexuality/homosexuals as ‘an abomination,’ which even then kinda felt like a begrudgingly made concession of necessity at best… No?

      I’m not gonna lie, I’m more than a little shocked at this point everytime Trump mentions someone being “BL-A-ack.” I keep waiting for him to shift into full Dementia Don mode and just drop some hard Rs

    • @KillerTofu
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      They threw the gays and lesbians into mental institutions until around 1970.

    • @roofuskit
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      122 hours ago

      “one day I’ll be that boot!”

  • @BananaTrifleViolin
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    This is what you get when you have such a polarised electoral system. People treat the parties like sport teams and support them no matter what. So they vote against their own interests because they believe they should never vote for the other side.

    1/3 of people dont even vote in the US because there is no real choice.

    Its amazing how often you see people aggressively defending the democrats purely on the basis that they’re not the republicans. Even criticising the dems is framed as being pro Republican which is crazy. Both parties are shit, both have sewn up the US electoral system between them and keep everyone else out at all levels.

    And during elections that opinion gets shut down and people become complicit with the system. “Voting for a 3rd party is a wasted vote” etc.

    The idea that voters should be registered as democrat PR Republican is also crazy - it’s like supporting a party is part of someone identity which is weird.

    The only way out is wholesale reform of the system and I don’t see either party offering that. A 3rd party could try and build from the bottom up and dismantle the two parties powerbase but it doesn’t seem to be happening.

    So maybe it’ll be revolution when a party pushes people too far? Though Americans seem willing to tolerate an awful lot of shit without doing anything at all.

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      A 3rd party could try and build from the bottom up and dismantle the two parties powerbase but it doesn’t seem to be happening.

      Not really. The FPTP system makes that incredibly difficult. You can’t get votes without taking some amount away from the closest party.

      So existing parties are encouraged to shut down and absorb new parties. And new parties will struggle to get a majority of the old party, let alone a majority of the entire election.

      We need a system that doesn’t have these nonstarter problems, and that’s star + approval voting.

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      1/3 of people dont even vote in the US because there is no real choice.

      If you’re not conviced by the last . . . eight weeks . . . that that’s absolutely not true, I don’t know what to tell you. If you’re under 24 then that’s because the adulting hasn’t kicked in full-time, but other than that, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    It basically could have been written by an Aaron Sorkin character.

  • @givesomefucks
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    This is what happens when Dems refuse to do anything to help…

    Idiots vote Republican because things will change. Almost never changes for the better (gotta go back to like Lincoln lol) but shit does change with a Republican.

    If Dems who wanted to help could make it past the neoliberals in the primaries, all of these people would still be voting D.

    Luckily Ken Martin hasn’t been the type to stand in the way of the type of candidates dem voters want. He’s the whole reason Minnesota is blue, let alone progressive.

    Nearly four months into the legislative session, Democrats in the state have already tackled protecting abortion rights, legalizing recreational marijuana and restricting gun access — and they have signaled their plans to take on issues like expanding paid family leave and providing legal refuge to trans youths whose access to gender-affirming and other medical care has been restricted elsewhere.

    “These [policies] are things that have a direct and clear impact on improving people’s lives,” U.S. Sen. Tina Smith, D-Minn, said. “And that’s what Minnesotans are looking for. They’re looking for evidence — just as voters are nationally — that the government that they elect can deliver results for them.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/minnesota-becoming-laboratory-progressive-policy-rcna79816

    Compare that to “Dem stronghold” states where most voters hate their incumbents, and the incumbents are routinely more conservative than the Dem party platform.

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      This is like blaming people for watching a lynching instead of blaming the KKK directly.

      Not having courage to stop something is one thing but its not equally as incriminating as the crime itself.

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        Oh I’m sorry…

        I thought this was a reasonable discussion about what the Dem party could do to stop people from voting for trump…

        You clearly want to keep doing the same stuff that’s not working and just screech at people.

        That does the opposite, but I won’t waste more time explaining

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        A 14 hour account too, wonder how many accounts of yours I’ve blocked for advocating for the absolute worst strategy Dems can use moving forward…