• @YoBuckStopsHere
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    1 year ago

    Just beat me to it. I’m so happy this community is getting good at posting! That’s the community goal!

  • @chakan2
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    1301 year ago

    Fox News: Brave patriot shot down by Biden’s secret police

    • 0110010001100010
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      341 year ago

      I can’t even find that they are covering it at all, there is nothing on their front page about it.

      • @NevermindNoMind
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        321 year ago

        They were serving an arrest warrant in addition to a search warrant, which means they had probable cause for an arrest and a judge signed off on this. It wasn’t just shit posting, he was making plans which for reasons we don’t yet know the feds and a judge considered credible and serious. We also don’t know why he was shot, but “summary execution” seems unlikely, especially given how the feds always walk on eggshells around right wing extremists so as not to ruby ridge their way to another oaklahoma city (see e.g. basically every standoff with the Bundys). My money is the guy was a nutcase who started shooting when the feds showed up leading to a fairly predictable result for him.

      • @chakan2
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        211 year ago

        It’s ALWAYS been like that. Back in the early 90s a kid emailed the white house a threat as a joke…the FBI showed up at the school the next day.

        It’s always been a crime to threaten the president. Half of Congress gets away with it because they’re rich…but us poor bastards that are still subject to laws should expect repercussions for illegal acts.

        Threatening the government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the president of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.

        • @remotelove
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          71 year ago

          Half of Congress just dog whistles to their fanbase to do shit like we see in this exact post. With a couple of notable exceptions, they are generally not dumb enough to make direct threats themselves. (I think Cawthorn directly told a group of pro-Turnip supporters to make threats and such.)

          • @[email protected]
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            151 year ago

            Do you understand that we have to execute arrest warrants to prosecute someone? Like I don’t see what disconnect you have in this situation.

            Why is it such a a leap that a man who has made threats against someone would act violently towards law enforcement?

            Why do you think that the FBI is more likely to have killed him in cold blood executing lawful, legal warrants than the above?

          • @RunningInRVA
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            141 year ago

            You trust a right wing nut over the FBI?

            • Flying Squid
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              121 year ago

              Sounds like they’re a Trump supporter.

          • @[email protected]
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            41 year ago

            The FBI and regular police have very different standards. I definitely think this should be fully investigated like any use is force, but I have more faith that the FBI handled this appropriately than of it had been a local PD department.

      • keeb420
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        181 year ago

        Maybe he should’ve complied with police orders. Or whatever conservatives say when a black man is killed by police for their pinky twitching.

      • @StupidFatRat
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        131 year ago

        I mean the dude got into a shootout with the FBI

        Idk about you but i would have to make a few really bad life decisions before i got into a shootout with the feds. Like several very bad decisions before it even got to that point lol

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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          Yeah you don’t get in a gunfight with the downtown gang. Those men and women aren’t just serious about investigating, also marksmanship.

  • @jeffwOP
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    691 year ago

    We often hear reports about right-wing terrorism in the USA. But how many other incidents like this happen, where the person is caught beforehand? This wouldn’t be a top headline if he hadn’t died, it would be just another story relegated to the bottom of a news site.

    • @OttoVonBizmarkie
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      471 year ago

      I would bet given how many crazy MAGA assholes are out there, and with Trump instigating shit, this is probably happening very regularly right now.

      • FuglyDuck
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        61 year ago

        the guy that showed up at obama’s place with weapons, too. and there’s a lot of right-wing hate causing disturbances not directly at leaders that are written off as just more violent crime rather than hate crimes or politically motivated crimes.

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        Was mostly FedBois, the 4 goons who got arrested had a supporting cast of 20+ members of Federal Law Enforcement. They paid for travel, put together meetings with other people and groups, and helped them plan it.

          • @orphiebaby
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            11 year ago

            Their name is “sadreality”, so I agree.

        • @AbidanYre
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          From Wikipedia:

          On October 6, 2022, Franks was sentenced to four years in prison.[147]

          On December 27, 2022, Fox was sentenced to serve sixteen years in federal prison followed by five years of supervision.[148]

          On December 28, 2022, Croft was sentenced to serve more than nineteen years and seven months in federal prison.[149][150]

          An average of 13 years in prison sounds like the prosecutor made a case out of it.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 year ago

          They were just minding their own business when federal agents tricked them into trying to kidnap the governor! Poor babies, could happen to anyone.

    • Alto
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      61 year ago

      I don’t want to jinx it because it may still happen, but it’s an outright miracle a straight up war didn’t break out at any of these events like Charlottesville

      • @Touching_Grass
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        81 year ago

        This is why I don’t think anything happens at that organized a level without a huge financial backing behind it. The common person wants a war. The rich don’t but they want to utilize the anger the common man has. Everything that happens at a high level of organization is due to a handful of people investing time and lots of money into it. Regular folk can’t organize themselves enough to get things to a sustainable level. It takes tons of social media manipulation and rubbing elbows with influencers to do podcast circuits and link up with media outlets and blogs to create the stories that keep the flames hot enough to spread.

        • Alto
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          41 year ago

          Sorry I would have been more specific. I wasn’t really referring to a full on civil war, but a large scale shootout at any one of those events that went violent.

        • @rambaroo
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          41 year ago

          The common person wants a war? Lol they absolutely do not. The vast majority of people just want to get on with their lives.

          • @SocialMediaRefugee
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            Exactly. No one is going to organize anything because it would end in failure and them losing everything without mass popular support. It is only when the average person gets their back pushed to the wall by economic collapse (Germany post ww1) or famine (revolutionary France) along with political weakness and instability at the top that you see mass revolt.

            No one is going to join “a war” just because they are annoyed.

        • @SocialMediaRefugee
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          People at the top do not support any kind of social turmoil because stability is what makes them wealthy and keeps them there. The last thing they would want is to lose control. People don’t even want to invest in unstable countries.

          You don’t need modern social media and podcasts to have turmoil. They didn’t exist in revolutionary Russia or France.

          • @Touching_Grass
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            11 year ago

            People at the top are not any more homogeneous than people at the bottom. All people and groups want more power. They’re all jockeying for better positions. If you’re the political consultant for a party whose values are dying with an ageing population then you need a zeitgeist to reignite the youth to see your party in a new light. To accomplish that you need turmoil. Turmoil is where opinions change. So powerful people leverage the average persons gripes and anger to create just enough turmoil to upend the stays quo so they can be the ones to narrate what new generation will see them as. Things don’t change when people are content.

            Go back to those events in history and you’ll see the same power brokers organizing events.

    • @SocialMediaRefugee
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      21 year ago

      Arrests do make the news. It is the people who get a visit and a stern talking to that you don’t hear about. I’m sure there were more than a few left-wingers who got visits during the trump admin.

  • Hairyblue
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    311 year ago

    This is republicans and Trump’s fault. They lie to people and get them angry about democrats eating babies or letting men rape children in restrooms. They know that there are mentally unstable people out there and that they will believe them. Trump KNOWS this. And now these brainwashed and programmed people are going out and attacking Trump’s enemies. Remember when Trump got Ashli Babbitt killed?

    OR maybe this guy was a fascist. Guess we’ll find out.

    • @Tangent5280
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      No. Something of value was lost, because this guy didn’t need to die. He was brainwashed and fed fear throughout his life which compounded with a lack of clear thinking or education, into a need to project a mask of what he thought was bravery.

      Our anger should be directed at the remorseless pieces of shit that build this machine that injects fear into the gullible, and engineers the deaths of people who didn’t need to die.

      If you find it difficult to empathise with this man, try to imagine that one of your family members went off the deep end and made the stupid ass decisions this guy did. Will you still feel that his death was justified? Will you feel like this was the preferable end to this guy’s life?

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    75 year old nutjob got gunned down on his doorstep… went out in a HAIL OF BULLETS YEEEHAAAWWW

    this is what our corpse actually posted:

    “I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle,”

  • @Sterile_Technique
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    211 year ago

    What a fucking stupid way to die.

    Idiot found out, I guess.

  • @Octavio
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    141 year ago

    This is why I have to laugh when my firearms enthusiast friends tell me they need assault weapons in case they need to overthrow the government. This guy had a lot of assault weapons. Like tons of them. This is how it turned out. This is how it will always turn out.