Why YSK: You might be used to Reddit where you can’t edit titles. This is important both for the errant poster, but also for the person coming from ages in the future who might stumble upon it.
This makes me realize that Reddit development got stale, this should have been an updated feature years ago.
Reddit development got stale when, unfortunately and tragically, their best dev killed himself in 2013
I have been reading about him. He deserves a movie, and a good one.
let’s talk to James Franco once he’s done making the Shel Silverstein bio-pic I’ve been asking for for ten years.
If he was alive today to see the censorship that he stood so against… I shudder to think about it
They, like Twitter, had good reasons for not allowing it, such as the risk of users editing posts after the fact, and the risk of abusing that privilege to scam other users, so on.
But their development did get stale some years back, and they probably know it, given that Reddit started chasing trends and implementing mostly-unwanted features some probably when they started focusing on trying to keep users on the site, and adding things like image/video uploading (which probably did terrible things to their development costs).
That makes sense, thanks!
Hopefully one happy side effect of this is that it won’t become a cultural thing on the Fediverse to put a typo in your post title and then have a comment section full of people all calling attention to the typo instead of the actual question/topic of the post.
Although I’m curious about how they might address the “clickbait” issue of people having a massively upvoted/boosted post, and then changing the post to say something else entirely.
That seems like it might be a problem if people are allowed to edit titles.
‘*Title edited’ small text could be added maybe. And if title is edited after a day or week or month then specify that too.
Honestly one probably should have ability to edit titles after max two days pass or even one. I can’t think of a good reason you would want to edit a title after a day or twoTag with “Title edited” also include a button showing former title as an uncoverable element.
Editing titles much later can be useful for example when discussing news or findings that later get disproved, at which point one could edit the title to reflect that so that future readers don’t risk going down the path of trusting it.
I don’t think it’s necessary or even good to have that kind of messages which are either very recent (ninja-edits) or have very few upvotes, engagement, etc, at least for a day or so. At least not a prominent message.
All the concerns, after all, are about swicharoos, and if noone has yet seen the post, is it really a swicharoo? We should rather incentivise people to edit bad titles to get rid of titlegore etc and “delete, repost” aka the reddit solution isn’t exactly elegant either.
Maybe through moderation?
Just like being able to embed images inline in comments. They’re really handy features, but they can be abused easily. Perhaps this is where Lemmy relies on mods instead?
Is it really a problem tho? If it would happen then the only thing that sucks is that you just got pranked. There are no karma points here to sell. I have more faith in ppl here to not do such things too. But even if they did there wouldn’t be a big deal. I think it is much more worth it having it then not having it. Like ruud (admin at lemmy.worls) change his titles from “updating the server” to “[all done] updating the server”. Also I am a believer in creating rules if it becomes a problem, to give everyone a chance to be believed in.
Sure, but I could see it being used to promote scams and things, too. You get a popular post, and then change it to something else, pointing to a scam, and feign popular support for it.
I remember that being one of the reasons for why both Reddit and Twitter didn’t really have post/title editing.
It’s better to also have some known method of counteracting any potential issues ahead of time, so we’re not blindsided by something like that when it does happen, especially when it’s something that could happen now, rather than some far-fetched issue.
Ah I see, I guess I have missed this. I didn’t think it was such a big problem. But I can see it happen on bigger platforms. Thanks for enlightening me. I guess I am still too naive for social media haha
yeah a system like the Fediverse should learn from the mistakes of Twitter and Reddit and others.
There’s no need to re-discover a pothole for yourself when there should be a big goddamn sign pointing at it.
It absolutely can become a problem in the areas of advertising, politics, propaganda, misinformation, and scams.
Once out of the spotlight of the immediate popular phase (say, a month or a year after the initial post) and the greater scrutiny that carries, imagine changing the title to something anti-vax, or painting a company in a better light (Nestle did nothing wrong!), or endorsing a fake research result (global warming is not man-made and just a natural cycle!), or just flat out putting in a web address to a phishing site since you know someone’s grandma will click on it.
Are comments marked in some way to show when edited like reddit was?
Are titles?
Like could I write a post/comment “how often do you call your parents” and after everyone comments, once a week, once a day, oh god never, etc,
Edit the post/comment to say “how often do you eat poop”
And then sit back and chuckle softly to myself? Or would it say *(edited)
It should.
Edit: edit check
I’m on lemmy.world and I can see the time and date your comment was posted and same for edited.
Kbin doesn’t show it though, so not every software will show the edit tag.
EDIT: Turns out that Kbin doesn’t seem to have implemented that yet.
Yeah, I have a kbin account and noticed the same thing. I keep going back and forth between the two. I understand why it’s implemented, but I’m not sure I entirely like the idea of having every favorite being visible to the public. At least they’re only visible on the specific comment/ post but not visible from the user profile.
seconding this, i am also on lemmy.world and can also see it. although i did have to look around for it a little bit
When a post is edited (title or otherwise), a little pencil icon is shown to tell you it’s edited, just like comments.
Sweet good to know.
Doesn’t seem to show that for me on jerboa but ehh
On jerboa it has how long ago it was posted, then how long ago it was edited in the top right of the comment
It would be a nice feature to see the change history so that you can see that it was a typo fix or clarification or complete replacement.
I’m looking at this comment through kbin.social and I am not seeing any indication that you edited it.
Hopefully the developers work on that.
There doesn’t seem to be any indication on kbin, for anyone wondering.
I’m not seeing any indication on kbin
Doesn’t seem to show any indication of editing on Mlem yet.
on Lemmy.world if I hover over the little pencil icon I see Created: [date] Modified [date] Non-modified comments in this thread show no pencil. That’s pretty slick.
Using Jerboa on Android and I think I see an edit timestamp, but it is rather discreet and not super useful for your edit since it was so close in time. It looks like it lists: timeOfPost (timeOfEdit), so for example:19h (19h).
A more prominent indication of an edit would probably be good to have.
Edit: spelling
You can also add your personal text in a text box when you create link posts, another thing you can’t do in reddit.
It’s as though this is the logical progression- more freedom.
More than half of my titles and descriptions have typos in it so it’s a blessing
I read the title of this thread as “YSK that you can edit TILES on Lemmy, unlike Reddit.” I spent far longer than I should trying to figure out wtf tiles were. Yes, I’m dumb.
interior designers hate this one weird trick
Apparently you can also post pics in replies too!
Random pic from my phone
The NSFW side of Lemmy already seems to be using this feature for makeshift image galleries.
Wow that’s actually pretty neat!
That’s an excellent feature I had no clue about!
kbin, too
Thank you for this. Pretty annoying feature on Reddit, to be fair.
I’m confused. Wasn’t this posted on kbin.social? It seems odd to me to tell lemmy users they can edit titles, from kbin
Nah mate this is posted on lemmy.world lol
Kbin.social currently attributes every post like it was local. That’s not intended and will probably be fixed soon.
Previously we could not federate due to cloudflare issues, now we’re federating properly but the front end doesn’t show the correct source of linked posts.
Kbin is a work in process, lol
Thanks. Felt like I was going crazy with other people replying to me that this is on lemmy
Kbin is currently in Vanilla Ice mode.
This post is on @youshouldknow, not Kbin. Kbin can edit titles too though, we’re not left out!
Whoa that’s awesome!
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