• givesomefucks
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    30 days ago

    He was almost certainly a groyoer tho…

    The term “Groyper” began circulating widely in 2019 during a public feud inside the conservative movement. That year, followers of Nick Fuentes disrupted college events hosted by Charlie Kirk and his group, Turning Point USA, accusing Kirk of watering down Donald Trump’s message.

    The clash, later referred to as the “Groyper Wars,” drew national attention for its confrontational tactics and for pushing white nationalist ideas into more mainstream conservative circles.

    Kirk responded by calling the Groypers extremists. He defended his approach to conservatism as inclusive, saying the movement should be open to people of all backgrounds and reject racism and homophobia.

    https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

    Kirk was just starting his “return tour”, and the guy who shot him was a trump supporter.

    The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      91
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      30 days ago

      Wow. Incorrect from top to bottom. Sit down kid, because I’m only going to explain this once:

      His neck just did that.

      • captainlezbian
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        30 days ago

        Nah he faked his death. Moved to Casablanca to apprentice as a bottom surgeon duh. He’s rooming with Taylor Swift’s wife.

          • PineRune
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            30 days ago

            I read somewhere that ruptured neck tubes are a symptom of fentanyl overdose.

              • captainlezbian
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                30 days ago

                Wow he lost an argument so bad he got excited delirium‽ We need to ban arguing on campuses

      • Cypher
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        29 days ago

        His last words were a racist dog whistle but anyone with an ounce of intelligence already knew Charlie Kirk was a lying piece of shit.

        • SpaceNoodle
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          edit-2
          29 days ago

          He’d already said enough racist shit to make it quite obvious.

          But at least he died doing what he loved, advocating for gun violence.

    • _stranger_
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      29 days ago

      That sounds exactly like gang violence to me. It literally is always projection with these assholes

    • Donkter
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      29 days ago

      Wow I didn’t know there was specific beef against Kirk to back it up. That’s crazy

    • TheYojimbo
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      29 days ago

      As much as I would love this, what about the messages on the shells ? Weren’t they clearly antifa ?

      • chuckleslord
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        29 days ago

        Writing stupid shit on killing devices is a groyper signature thing. Cause why the fuck would you sign the goddamn crime things?

        Same with Annunciation shooting as well. If you hear “they signed the casings” and the sayings aren’t related to the victim (like the Thompson “Deny, Defend, Depose”) then it’s probably a groyper

        • TheYojimbo
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          29 days ago

          The ones that make me doubt are “hey fascist! CATCH!” and “O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao”. I mean I would love for him to be a neonazi, but this feels like wishful thinking…

        • TheYojimbo
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          29 days ago

          What about “hey fascist! CATCH!” and “O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao” ?

          • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            28 days ago

            Hey fascist catch is a reference to hell divers 2. Bella ciao is a song on the groyper wars Spotify playlist

            • TheYojimbo
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              28 days ago

              Yes someone else told me the same thing, thank you I’m sold !

    • ameancow
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      28 days ago

      The most likely explanation is he was a groyper

      Is it though? This is all ENTIRELY speculation and smells stinkily like more people trying to “disclaim” him from their “side” and everyone is doing it. It’s the point of this post. Everyone saying everything else ALSO claims to have “most likely explanations” so it’s all entirely speculation and bullshit until I hear verified evidence or an admission, until then you’re all playing internet detective/Q-anoning/thread-linking/conspiracy cosplay.

  • thespcicifcocean
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    28 days ago

    It’s fake. Everyone in the crowd was a crisis actor. Trump is going to use this to take our guns away.

      • thespcicifcocean
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        27 days ago

        remember when that guy shot up the crowd in Vegas with a bump stock? Trump banned bump stocks after that. Obama didn’t ban any guns and neither did Biden. Trump did. MAGA and the GOP are the party of gun control.

  • Jomega
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    29 days ago

    I don’t understand this alignment chart.

  • CheeseNoodle
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    28 days ago

    Considering the right wing seems to have completely stopped talking about it (and nancy pelosis wrong person I think, the puppy shooting person(s) tweet) I can only assume he was a republican for them to all shut up all of a sudden.

  • ameancow
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    28 days ago

    I said basically the same thing earlier on Lemmy and got called a “both sider” so yeah, we’re fucked, ya’ll are deep in the gravy and need to not just touch grass, you all need to grow grass and dirty your hands in the beautiful topsoil and reconnect with the earth and your own brains.