• @TrismegistusMx
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    Republicans have used the electoral collage to overturn the popular vote twice in my life. I have no doubt they’ll do anything they can to undermine a fair election. They can’t win otherwise.

    • Tedesche
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      No, Republicans haven’t “used” the electoral college to overturn the popular vote, that’s just how our election system works. I’m all for getting rid of the electoral college, but until then, this is the system we’re stuck with.

      • @clanginator
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        I mean, to split hairs here, republicans (democrats as well, they just never succeeded in an electoral over popular victory) intentionally target specific areas with campaigning and funds in order to “use” the electoral system to secure the w, so they have used it, but they’ve used it to overrule the popular vote, not overturn.

        Altho depending on who you ask there was some fishy shit with Bush IIRC so that could be overturn. I don’t know anything about that tho so no clue the veracity of that.

        • Tedesche
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          The point is, it’s not cheating or doing anything nefarious—it’s just intelligent strategy. Don’t hate the party, hate the system.

          The 2000 presidential election is different. Florida’s vote tallies were contested because they were so close. There was a recount that was also vey close and ultimately the Florida supreme court made a ruling in favor of Bush and gave him Florida’s electoral votes. This was all technically legal, but very unusual, and what made it even fishier was the fact that Bush’s brother (Jeb Bush) was governor of Florida at the time. That’s why a lot of liberals felt Bush “stole” that election.

      • @TrismegistusMx
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        Yes, the electoral system works in favor of republicans. Just like gerrymandering is technically illegal but nobody’s going to do anything about it.

    • GodlessCommie
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      Popular vote has NEVER meant shit in this country, there was no popular vote to overturn because that not how elections are measured

        • GodlessCommie
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          No one has ever claimed it was a good system, it’s a system designed to work perfectly for the wealthy and the politicians they own

        • @orclev
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          That’s also why the Senate exists, it represents the States which are a stand in for Nobility. It’s based on the UKs house of lords and house of commons. Congress represents the peasantspeople, while the Senate represents the nobilitystate.

      • @TrismegistusMx
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        Because this system is rigged in favor of republicans.

        • GodlessCommie
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          *the system is rigged in favor of the duopoly

          • @[email protected]
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            I’d say our voting method is rigged in favor of the duopoly, and the electoral college is rigged in favor of republicans.

    • @Pretzilla
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      It’s just out of habit at this point

    • @thesprongler
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      7 in 8 Republicans are liars.

      No, that also seems low.

  • @teamevil
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    Bullshit it’s 1 in 8… It’s like cockroaches you see one there’s hundreds or thousands. I’d say it’s a lot closer to 1:2 or 1:1.

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      They ‘prefer’ a candidate that respects the rules but will support anyone that they believe will beat the Democrats.

      It’s like saying, I’d prefer to win fair and square but I’m willing to cheat if playing by the rules doesn’t work out.

  • @Astroturfed
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    One in eight? Lol. One in eight are willing to admit it. Probably like 1/3-1/2 would go along with subverting democracy for “their team”. We’re talking about the party that’s fine with the fact that they lose every popular vote and still manage to regularly get control of the government. Democracy is not important to them.

  • @jeffwOP
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    That goes up to almost 1 in 4 (23%) when you look at people who watch Newsmax and OAN

    • FuglyDuck
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      7-in-8 are probably full of shit.

  • @[email protected]
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    I’d bet those numbers are much higher in actual life. 10s of millions of Republicans will happily vote for the coup leader the next time around.

  • @Hazdaz
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    1110 months ago

    Once again Republicans showing us how much they “love” America and freedom by telling us they hate the American people and democracy.

  • Flying Squid
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    When it stops being politics and becomes a religion in and of itself…

  • @davepleasebehave
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    810 months ago

    I read, for what that’s worth, that around 30% of any population would.be authoritarian…so that makes sense

  • @[email protected]
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    “Election rules” are what govern democracy itself. Without them you don’t have a free democracy.

    So the headline should be changed to “One in 8 Republicans think winning is more important than democracy” and you can see where the problem lies.

  • @foggy
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    If you don’t like democracy, you can expatriate. That’s your option. Beyond that, it’s treason.