The military service, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security, has drafted a new policy that classifies such items “potentially divisive.”

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  • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    so the most hateful symbol ever made, the swastika, is now just potentially divisive… sweet….
    i will say that the noose has a lot of meaning other than referring to lynchings… pretty popular in suicide and any other type of execution….
    it’s certainly used as a hate symbol but it’s not always that.
    e.g. Hangtown, California (although they did remove the noose from their city logo)
    ….
    maybe they changed it because the swastika has much older cultural and religious meaning elsewhere?

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      No, the swastika only has one meaning. It was changed from the original symbol, and so that original symbol is still safe. The swastika is the swastika, and it means nothing but hate and is worn by no one but cunts.

      Edit: Lot of swastika apologists on this site…

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        This isn’t really accurate. I agree with your sentiment on some level… But the swastika has existed for thousands of years in many different forms in many different cultures. It was co opted for sure, but not really changed. I agree that it is predominantly used as a hate symbol in modern culture, but it’s not quite as simple as you are putting it here, imho. Ancient Buddhist or Hindu temples shouldn’t be torn down because of a madman that stole a symbol nonsensically that had nothing to do with Aryan superiority. Might be nice if someday it could be rehabbed but certainly today, in America especially it is generally used as only meaning one thing. Not trying to be pedantic, it’s just not quite as cut and dry as you’re representing.

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            In the Indian context, the reverse swastika (counter-clockwise, or sauvastika) symbolizes night, the goddess Kali, and tantric practices, while the right-facing swastika represents day, the sun (Surya), and auspiciousness. Both symbols are ancient and sacred in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, but the left-facing sauvastika is specifically associated with the night and Kali in Hindu tradition.

    • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Not disagreeing with current meaning behind the swastika, but it was appropriated from Sanskrit; it was not created to be hateful.

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        It wasn’t appropriated from Sanskrit, the design was a popular across the Indo-European cultures for millenia but happened to survive into modernity in Sanskrit. The Nazis ripped it from artifacts being found mainly in Germanic and Celtic archeology sites, they also ripped a bunch of other symbols but most of those were dropped by the start of the war, they also made the black sun symbol (I just woke up from a nap and can’t rember the name) based off the solar symbols of ancient Neolithic to Bronze age Old European cultures.

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        It’s still used today in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

        It’s not the reversed, 45-degree angle one the Nazis used to set theirs apart.

        • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          The tilted and reversed doesn’t matter, the original one is allowed to be reversed and tilted as well, it’s juat usually not tilted.

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            1 year ago

            In case you didn’t know, the .ml instance has a very earned reputation for hosting tankies.

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              Yes, I learned about that quite a while after I had signed up. So what? It’s like refusing to talk to someone simply because they’re from Florida - sure, most Floridians are racist lunatics, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the benefit of doubt.

              • Armok_the_bunny
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                I’d buy that if your original comment didn’t sound very much like something a tankie would say.

              • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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                Anyone still in Florida with the means of moving out of Florida will not get my benefit of the doubt.

                Your case is far simpler as it is a 30 seconds sign up, and not a life changing decision.

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    1 year ago

    For context as to what this means. When you go through your physical to enter this would be considered an acceptable tattoo and would not prevent you from joining the armed forces

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    Why would they do some dumb shit like this, besides to further an agenda, with likely nefarious intention