Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner were found dead on Sunday with stab wounds, source close to the family told NBC News.
Prosecutors in California will file murder charges against Nick Reiner, the younger son of Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner, Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman said Tuesday.
Hochman said his office is expected to file two counts of first-degree murder with a special circumstance alleging multiple murders on Tuesday afternoon. Nick Reiner also faces a special allegation that he used a knife in the killings, Hochman told reporters.
Nick Reiner faces a maximum sentence of life without the possibility of parole or the death penalty if convicted, he said.
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Insane. Wonder what the motive was if he did it.
What I’ve read implies it was like the situation in Detroit become human, but without the 3rd party(Marcus). But we won’t know unless the murderer spills the beans.
Haven seen that movie/show/played that game, so that means nothing to me. 🤷♂️
California doesn’t have the death penalty though?
It does, but the governor paused executions
In a case like this, where the victims would likely want them to be lenient on the murderer, is that taken in to consideration during sentencing?
The surviving family’s wishes are generally considered during sentencing, but the weight given depends on the judge.
Thank you. I was asking a genuine question. Some here seemed to get the impression I was advocating for something unsavory.
Yeah it kinda came off with “it should be less of a crime to murder liberals” vibes. But yeah survivors wishes are considered and loved ones will often try to ask for what the victims advocated for in life.
How would would you even show they wanted to be lenient? Those people are dead. Unless there was some recording or writings where they state this?
If you’re going to say that it’s their kid then I will retort with the fact that not all parents want their kids to be treated with leniency. You can’t make sweeping generalizations like that.
You definitely wouldn’t want to generalize. You’d try to determine what they would have wanted based on available information.
My opinion on someone and hopes for their future would change quite a lot while they’re in the process of murdering me.
That’s a good point.
In theory, if he’s a danger to society his punishment is tailored to minimize any future harm he might inflict on the public, doesn’t really matter what you want
It would actually be pretty whacky if a dangerous criminal could get lenient sentences because the victims were particularly forgiving or something
But that all being said American prisons are the antithesis of justice so there’s really no good answers anyway
Even if he can never be free again, there’s still a spectrum of outcomes for him.
I would expect not too much, since they can’t speak during sentencing.
And even if they had written a letter or something, I suspect that the very idea that they could plan for him murdering them would fall pretty flat, and might even backfire.
If my kid killed me because they were stupid I’d want them locked away for life. Fuck that shit, murderers are murderers, no self defense in murder.
Just so you know, I’ve wondered the same thing. Like, in 50 years if my son snapped and killed me or some shit, I wouldn’t want him to get the death penalty.
Yes, and his parents seem like they really wanted what was best for him.
Why is leniency what’s best? From what I read, he’s had a number of chances and a habit of causing harm. This is a large escalation. It also seems like the parents had tried many things and that included tough love. Like as a quick test of your logic, do you think they would want leniency if he’d killed his sister instead? It’s easy to romanise people in death and I’m suspicious of the presumption here
Leniency in this case could be institutionalization as opposed to the death penalty or life in a regular prison.
Yep. And if he’d killed the sister? I’m not convinced there would be much advocacy compared to grasping at surviving while leaving the system to do its thing. And if that situation is too different, then there’s this from another poster:
My opinion on someone and hopes for their future would change quite a lot while they’re in the process of murdering me.
You seem like someone that has strong views on this biased towards rehabilitation. I think in general there is too much incarceration instead of rehabilitation but I know I’m ignorant in cases like this. We’re lacking a lot of information and the son obviously needed treatment and was avoiding it but I’m wondering if you’re aware of statistics of rehabilitation in cases kind of like this: a bit more extreme and don’t seem like short sighted mistakes with paths towards rejoining society without being a risk. Obviously there inhumane and more humane, but in thinking about a reply to you I became curious about how effective interventions can be for more extreme cases
They were antivax loons tho. Not saying that means they deserved death, but the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree with their son.
