I have been prepping my home for the last five hours and I’m exhausted. Couldn’t really do it sooner because I was working. My family always make me feel bad when there is cat hair or dust somewhere. Is it okay to put the bar a little lower? Would it be okay to just do less? What are your own standards about cleaning?

  • LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml
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    I used to be super messy until like age 30.

    What helped me keep on top of things was placing a nice wooden broom in every room so it’s always within reach when I feel like doing a quick 2-3 minute sweeping session. Quicker and less noisy than a vacuum, so I usually clean at night.

    Tables and kitchen counters get wiped with a sponge cloth that I keep by the sink. Having a dedicated spot for it so it’s always ready to use was key. Spills have to be wiped right away so they don’t harden and get tougher to clean, and then while you’re at it anyway you might as well clean the area around it as well.

    For crumbs and other dry messes on the kitchen counters I have a dedicated dustpan. Usually use that once a day after slicing bread. Never supposed to be used for floor sweepage or anything that isn’t food.

    I have a set of exactly one spoon, one fork, one butterknife, and a bowl that I always keep outside, and those are used for every meal I eat. This prevents piling up of silverware and dishes, because I got to clean those after/before every meal. I always dry them with a cotton cloth after washing. Prevents water stains and keeps the cup I have the silverware in from becoming unhygienic.

    This system (and smoking a ton of weed for a few years which made me develop some mild OCD-like behaviors) helps me keep on top of most cleanup chores.

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    If my family complains about my house I gladly thank them for volunteering and show them where the cleaning supplies is

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    I have fully embraced “lived in hosting”.

    I live here. My wife lives here. My cat lives here. I’m not going to try and pretend this isn’t a home and make it spotless for guests. Anyone who complains is probably not the sort of person I want around. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a pig sty, the dishes are done, I vacuum, and clean the bathrooms and such. But seriously, no one has time to make the house perfect. That comes from magazines and TV where there’s money hiring cleaning crews you don’t see or something.

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      That comes from magazines and TV where there’s money hiring cleaning crews you don’t see or something.

      I have some extended family making bank in oil trade, very wealthy, and it’s such a trip listening to them talk about life.

      Nannies for their kids that come to them. Grocery delivery. Delivery of almost everything, rarely go to the store themselves. House cleaners/maids that do everything. Landscapers. People to drive their kids to and from extracurriculars. Notice each of these is plural. The only thing I can think of that they don’t have is a chef.

      And they try to be down to earth, but their scale is skewed. Like they get thay most people have less time, but they expect the average person to still have like half the time they do, rather than like 1/10th at best.

      They have so fucking much free time, and they use it to keep their marriage and family strong. Date nights every week. Multiple family game nights each week. Both of the parents have rich social lives of their own, hobbies they have time to pursue.

      It’s astounding just how much of a difference the amount of free time available to them (due to having people to take care of the constant neverending life stuff for them) makes to their quality of life. Most direct example I’ve ever seen of the difference wealth can make.

      And their house always looks “HGTV ready”.

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      “I, too, live in my house” is what I say to friends who start feeling embarrassed about their conditions. There is a bar for what I can tolerate, but it’s mostly about hygiene. Lots of animal fur? Well just let me have a seat that isn’t covered in fur. If it’s a sheet over the couch, so be it. But my bar is somewhere above “smells like cat piss and there’s dried puke on the carpet”. Having cats for 30 years, I get it, it’s a hassle, but I don’t want to be there. Food containers are another thing that can bug me. Empty? Throw it out. Still has food that should have been refrigerated yesterday? Definitely clear garbage at this point. I’ll take a greasy, crumby stove over that, easily. Last spot, really, is the bathroom. Sticky or discolored surfaces are a problem.

      But cluttered areas? Stacks of mail? Bad organization? No organization? Whatever. With any of this, I liked you as a friend before, and I’ll like you as a friend after. Maybe I don’t want to come over, but it’s not like I’m going to use your living situation as judgement on who I thought you were outside.

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        Yeah, my bar is basically is it a health or safety hazard? If no then I don’t care, and if yes then all it changes is I’m concerned and also don’t want to be there

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    I agree with others here when they say that if they have a problem with it, they can help clean. One of my biggest pet peeves is someone coming in just to complain-- usually family members.

    “Are those ALL dirty dishes?” “There’s so much cat hair, have you cleaned recently?”

    I have five cats. There will ALWAYS be cat hair SOMEWHERE.

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      Lol yeah, I only have two but wow is it hard to get every hair. I have a very dark couch in the basement, the textile on it makes it impossible to remove hair, I tried with sticky rollers and the red brush without success.

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      Hell, when my friends come over they never complain. One of them is allergic to cats, but not to the point where it’s a HUGE issue. I dust, vacuum, wash the carpet, change the sheets, etc. before they come over because I want the place to be as comfortable as possible.

      Again, I never get any remarks from them or any other friends that come over. It’s always family.

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      That’s also a pet peeve of mine. It’s a little different if it’s an officially assigned task, for example if I am the one that takes the trash out, and you mention that the trash is full, thanks for letting me know, I’ll get on that. But if it’s a shared or unassigned task like: “The dog shit on the floor.” Ok, and why didn’t you do something about it when you saw it?

      If I’m not willing to fix it myself, I’m not going to point it out to others.

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        I’d be curious about the grouping you do. I usually do the tidying before the rest what do you mean with cleaning at the same time?

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          It typically pans out that I tidy up the worst of it, then clean the worst, then proceed to messes that aren’t as bad.

          It is difficult to clean when there is a lot of clutter, so unless an area is dirty but not cluttered, I usually need to tidy first. Bathrooms would be an example though where I may just need to clean.

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    If they don’t like it they can start cleaning themselves.

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    I wash my bedsheets yearly whether they need it or not and besides that it’s mostly a self-contained ecosystem for example I don’t change my bath mat because that’s where my mushrooms grow.

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    Lol visitors in my home are gonna get what they get, if they don’t like it they are welcome to not come over. Especially with animals, it can be extra tough to stay on top of it.

    My standards aren’t low and I’ll pickup, sweep and do a vacuum before company comes by. If the toilet is gross I’ll give it a quick scrub but I’m not going around dusting every trinket and shelf to satisfy someone that’s just visiting.

    Edit- I’ll concede there are levels to this. I aim to dust at least twice a month year round, so it’s never extraordinarily out of control for me. If previous holiday was the last time the shelves were wiped, that probably need addressed.

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      Yeah, pretty much the same boat. Honestly I don’t really want to invite them anymore because of it, but I can’t shut my parents off. Maybe I could groom the cats ahead of holiday season lol.

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    Maintenance is easier than one time sweeps. It’s hard to get off the couch and vacuum, wipe down, do dishes daily when it’s not as rewarding as seeing the change. There’s a wide variation in standards between people even within families. I have a family member who’s notorious. Their partner invited them for vacation at the family home once and went home a week early to clean. It’s a family joke.

    You won’t win against cat hair. It works its way into things and you’d need tweezers and a magnifying glass.

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    This is one of the primary issues in my marriage.

    My wife’s cleaning standard is MUCH higher than my own. It was fine before we had kids, the house was small and she did most of it. Now we have a bigger place and multiple children.

    She wants cleaning time to be equal. I say it’s not equal because the total hours required are dictated by her standards not mine.

    It’s not like my standards are disgusting or unhygienic though. I just don’t need the hallway swept every day, or the dishes completely washed every night. The dishwasher still runs daily.

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      My wife and I also have a disconnect when it comes to “cleaning” as she says that word to mean “organizing” and my understanding of it is more around dust, dirt, and grime. We also haven’t figured it out so I don’t have any suggestions or solutions for you, just wanted to commiserate.

      One thing that actually has helped is bringing in a cleaner with some degree of regularity. It could be weekly if you can afford it, but even monthly or quarterly can be really helpful. I usually also clean while the cleaner is here, but it gives me some assistance on bigger projects or takes the every day stuff off my hands so I can focus on less frequent tasks (baseboards, really giving the shower a good scrub, cleaning carpets, wiping the tops of the ceiling fans, etc.).

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    To answer your question - your judgemental family is the problem, not your cleaning. I have my own (pretty loose) cleaning standards, they don’t apply to others. If someone invites me to their house, it would have to be pretty dirty before I might say something, and even then more because I might be worried about them.

    We do kind of a lot of ongoing maintenance, run the Roomba twice a day and have help - we pay for every other week deep cleaning. But generally speaking yes there is cat hair and dust. We live in the world, the world is made of dirt.

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      Yeah, thanks for that. I feel like I have a pretty high standard of cleanliness, after all I grew up with my parents, who are very nitpicky about it, but I never tell anyone I’m visiting that there is any problem with their own cleaning. Everyone has a life and their own responsibilities. I just wanted to see where the bar was for people.

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    My standards aren’t especially high when it comes to cleaning before guests are over but definitely higher than many. Any area they will be in or anything they will interact with is my top priority, beyond that I am a lot more relaxed. If someone tried to make me feel bad about something minor like cat hair or a little dust they probably won’t ever be a guest again because that’s dickish and rude. As a guest you should never make your host feel embarrassed or uncomfortable, even if there’s a legitimate issue it should still be approached respectfully and with kindness.

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    I clean up anything that might attract insects or cause illness. Dirty laundry goes in the hamper, dirty dishes go in the sink. Empty containers go in the trash. That’s enough for me, on a day to day basis.

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    The amount of “acceptable” pet hair or dust depends on a lot of factors. If it’s rolling balls of cat hair or the dust can be measured in layers thick, then maybe there’s something that needs to be changed in cleaning routine. But occasional hair or dust or a knickknack here and there is part of life, especially with animals. And some breeds are far worse than others. Also look at both your air filter schedule, how quick they get dirty, and maybe the air patterns and how to improve them so things don’t collect in places.

    If you mean family as in visiting, then that’s just rude. If you did have an issue with cleanliness and the best they can do is make you feel bad about it instead of offering help or advice then I’d invite them over less or not at all. If it’s family that lives there… that’s a whole other level of “what are you helping with?”