• infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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    No no no, totally different criminal oligarchic blackmail conspiracy ring. Skull and Bones, not Little St James. Easy to confuse the two!

  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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    > Created ICE
    > Created TSA (No fly list, porno scanners, etc)
    > Created the Patriot Act
    > Created No Child Left Behind Act (Left lots of children behind)
    > Lied to invade Iraq (Hundreds of thousands dead, inspired ISIS, Abu Ghraib)
    > Lied to invade Afghanistan (Hundreds of thousands dead again)
    > Somehow didn’t catch Osama
    > Botched Hurricane Katrina response, domestic humanitarian disaster
    > Emboldened a wave of evangelicism that dulled American culture for years
    > Normalized state torture in the west at Guantanamo
    > Halliburton
    > Vice President shot a guy
    > Greatly expanded NSA domestic surveillance and FISA

    These are just the big ones off the top of my head, I could go on.

    edit - Damn there’s a big list, dive in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:George_W._Bush_administration_controversies

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    Because he was controlled by people who were all of these things. He was an easily controlled moron.

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    Zero Personal Scandals

    :-|

    Literally a book about them.

    Zero Blackmail Material

    :-/

    Now that they’ve cleaned that shit up.

    Zero Handlers

    :-|

    8-|

    Zero Financial Incentive

    The guy with $50M in his personal fortune and a family net worth of over $400M?

    Shut the fuck up.

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      So many people around now who weren’t even born yet when dubya was fucking the country up and have only experienced the sanitized version of his legacy where he’s portrayed as nothing but a dumb fall guy.

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      Bush was the “cleanest” Republican since Nixon only because he was such a Cheney puppet that Dick Cheney’s wedding ring is still lost up his ass somewhere. Cheney was president during that timeframe.

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        I mean, he was double-dealing for the O&G industry right alongside Cheney. He was just the face of the operation while Cheney did all the backroom dealing.

        But the idea that the Bush Family wasn’t flagrantly profiteering? Give me a fucking break. Family members and friends got lucrative jobs in senior administrative positions. Lobbyists got promoted to executive board rooms. Portfolios rapidly outpaced the market growth rates.

        Just ask how Michael Brown, a guy in the boutique thoroughbred horse business, ended up heading FEMA, ffs. Why do you think The Ashcroft Group landed Oracle and AT&T as clients?

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        Especially the financial incentives. Cheney was the former owner of one of the biggest contractors for the war, and they were all tied to the oil industry.

        Anyone remember what the wars did to oil prices?

        • The funny part was the massive gas tax that doubled my gas budget, which was later repealed, but gas prices were unaltered by the repeal. And I think that’s happened like 3 times in my life. I still remember thinking a dollar was expensive for gas.

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      Family of Secrets -> Oil depletion allowance -> Quartz -> Piezoelectricity -> Ultrasound -> Lazzaro Spallanzani -> List of Catholic clergy scientists -> Lorenzo Albacete -> Catholic University of America -> Charles Coughlin

      Thanks for the rabbit hole! I now know more about a whole deal of subjects, starting with a political theme, gliding over taxation of natural resources, physical phenomena, priest scientists, history of how we found out that bats don’t fly by sight, finding out that there were priest scientists in my lifetime, the information that there is an catholic university in the US and landing on the wiki page of a antisemitic radio priest during the time of WW2 that reached around 30 million americans during his prime (funnily enough tying back into the radio grade quartz that is a valid resource for the Oil depletion allowance).

      Edit: I haven’t even looked into your 2nd link yet.

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      Family of Secrets is such a goddamned mindfuck. That plus Chaos (about the ties between MKULTRA and Charles Manson) made my summer a few years back real freaky.

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    Dubya was doing it for the legacy. Daddy issues are a helluva drug.

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    Zero personal scandals? Are we sure about that? Wasn’t he an alcoholic with a coke habit?

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      His wife killed someone while drunk driving too. Also, spreads arms over giant Middle East map, all that war based on lies.

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        His wife killed someone while drunk driving too

        Almost feels wholesome now a days.

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          Oh, for those halcyon days of normal scandals like vehicular manslaughter and suit colors.

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        He was just a puppet for that part. If 9/11 never happened he would have been a mediocre 1 term president.

        It’s pretty wild that he was actually pushing for a fast track to citizenship before that.

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      Wasn’t he an alcoholic with a coke habit?

      wasn’t that before he was president?

      There’s financial incentive anyway, hooking up his boy Dick “Haliburton” Chaney

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        I’ve heard it was before he was president too, supposedly before he was governor too if I remember right.

        Not sure he’s ever directly given any details about the cocaine deal, but I remember him being pretty public about being intentionally sober because he knew he couldn’t handle it. Although, I don’t think he considers himself an actual alcoholic.

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          I remember him being pretty public about being intentionally sober because he knew he couldn’t handle it. Although, I don’t think he considers himself an actual alcoholic.

          by all means, fuck dubya, but as a “person” he seems reasonable. This is a mature , smart, and humble way of looking at it and managing yourself.

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            Beyond some of his actions as president, he does pretty consistently come off as a pretty alright dude. I really enjoyed the series of paintings he did on the value of immigrants a few years back.

            America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time.

            Can you imagine anyone on the Republican side saying that now?

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              He’s a guy you’d enjoy having a beer with, which was important criteria back then.

              And his immigration policy aspirations before 9/11 were better than anything the DNC has put forth since.

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    He’s as dumb as Donald but was raised with maybe 1-2 ounces of love whereas Donald was physically beaten with gold bars.

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        It’s definitely abusing the present to create a myth of relative harm that serves to sanitize the past. Ratchet effect.

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        And they obviously read part of it based on their comment. Either they stopped after the arrows or their reading comprehension is USA-tier. Them and everyone who voted them up.

        • W apologia is still fucking W apologia. Everyone started reminiscing on him for some reason after Trump’s first election and it made me want to puke. It’d be what, nearly a million dead Iraqis because of his bullshit? Nah, I’m going to get angry when people start making light of his war crimes and say untrue things like he had no financial stake in it.

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            The post is not apologia and not making light of his crimes. The post is saying there was no one who had leverage on him such that they could force him to do all the stupid shit he did. He just invaded a country and kicked off multiple decades of war in the Middle East for no comprehensible reason, like compromat. In the absence of a “mitigating reason” (as much as you can mitigate “war crimes”), it makes his actions look even worse

            I had never heard of W gaining direct financial compensation from going to war. Oiling the US war machine doesn’t directly benefit many politicians; it just hoes the farmbed to ensure a healthy crop of corruption keeps growing.