I think this one unites all the genders. Fuck Reagan!
Unless you’re assigned conservative at birth; ACAB if you will.
You are a true wordsmith
don’t leave out his destruction of the media as a balanced source of information when he signed the veto that killed the Fairness Doctrine. fuck that guy so hard.
Don’t forget trickle down economics, we can also thank Ronnie R for that too! And ignoring the AIDS epidemic for years, because that only hurt “the coloreds and gays”.
Pickle down rickonomics
It was the funniest policy I’d ever seen!
My understanding is that it only applied to broadcast networks and without serious reworking, we’d still have the misinformation we have on cable networks and the internet. I could see them maybe extending it to cable networks by now, had it stayed in place, but good luck policing it across thousands of websites putting out the tripe they do.
The Fairness Doctrine seems like it was potentially the right tool for the job at the time it was implemented, and perhaps killed way too early, but I’m not sure it would fit comfortably in the modern world.
(Oh, but yeah - fuck Reagan for nuking it when he did and the mountain of other shit he did to drag us onto this miserable fucking timeline, of course.)
I lived in a rural area in the the 80s and 90s, and much of the evil we have today began with Rush Limbaugh. We would be in such a better place today if the law had stopped that bastard.
I don’t disagree. Like I said, perhaps it would have slowed things by keeping the old forms of media in check, but looking around in 2023, I don’t think it would have had a chance to stem the flow of garbage juice leaking all over everything without massive reworking and the resources needed to do that.
Yes, and the way the Russian situation was handled by Bush was a direct contribution to what we see today.
The longer I live, the more the world’s situation today looks like the fall of Rome at 2x speed—no one thing caused it. It’s just a sand castle being washed out to sea by the tide.
But still, fuck Reagan and all the bastards that hastened it.
This is probably a flowery view of things, and I’m certainly not a fan of Bush Sr., but I heard an interesting take on the Bush “New World Order” speech where it was presented as Bush trying to have a conversation with the American people about staying deeply involved in Russian affairs to guide them closely to a proper democratic system. That perspective goes on to state that the American people simply weren’t interested, likely fatigued by the Cold War and not wanting to be involved so heavily in international affairs.
It’s a very simplistic, reductive take considering all of the variables and nuance required to take an honest look as US-Russia relations, but I think it’s interesting to consider nonetheless.
After that they got Yeltsin who was “pro-West” and we decided on a more hands-off level of involvement hoping free market economics would lead them to liberal democracy. What we got, instead, was massive corruption, cronyism, and nepotism from Yeltsin that led to the post-Soviet economic and social collapse. Im under the impression that Russian people blamed “the West” and Yeltsin tapped Putin because Putin wouldn’t prosecute him for his corruption.
I could be wrong, I’m no scholar on Russia-US relations, but this is essentially what I’ve gathered from reading stuff over the years. I think some of the PBS Frontline documentaries that cover Russia and Putin actually touch on some of this stuff, too
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I always hate the “time traveller kills Hitler” stchick.
Killing Reagan does not change the political climate that allowed him to rise to power. In fact killing him could have made things worse for the USA. See 9/11 for a recent example.
Yeah but it will be funny.
Also, Trickle-Down-Assassination… Every president after him would get shot too. Or not I dunno
It’s what happened after Lincoln. All presidents since him have not survived or are expected to die within the next few decades.
I wouldn’t have killed Regan had I gone back in time, I would’ve gone a bit further back and after Rockerfeller got forced to sell standard oil, I would’ve offed him just before he was able to use the money he gained to form Chicago University and it’s dreaded Chicago school of economics.(home to the ludicrous idea that the free market will regulate itself) Which I think had even worse consequences than Reganomics, if not directly influencing it.
At the very least, it would’ve likely extended the 30 years worth of post Roosevelt economic prosperity that decreased wage gaps, and actively created the middle class at least a bit longer before some other rich butthole got the same or a similar idea as Rockerfeller.
It’s called the University of Chicago. And yup, it continues to be a vicious pile of shit to this day, fucking over the vulnerable communities around it, providing substandard health care and sitting on a 10 billion dollar endowment that they refuse to use to either raise employee wages or lower tuition. (Fun fact: They’re projected to become the first university in the country to have six-figure tuition.)
The problem isn’t even free market concepts, it’s the idea that you can advocate for a free market in a highly regulated country. When the definition of corporation is controlled and liability is removed from individuals you can’t have a free market.
Take him out before he becomes an actor. Oh no random nobody in California got hit by a car. Too bad drunk driving is still legal 🤣
Killing Reagan does not change the political climate that allowed him to rise to power.
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In fact killing him could have made things worse for the USA. See 9/11 for a recent example.
Pretty sure they’re responding to that part.
That assumes you’re only pulling off one time-travel assassination. What if you just keep doing them until the lack of the relevant people shifts the political climate by itself? Like in the "go back and kill Hitler (or just push him onto a different life path at a young age, if you have time travel, you can probably remove someone as a leader without just killing them), sure, maybe a different fascist rises in Germany instead, but if you take out that one too, and the next one, and the next, eventually someone who isn’t a fascist will manage to get into office, or if you keep it up long enough, the german fascist movement will run out of viable leaders, and cease to be a major factor in the political climate of the time.
And then you change history so much that you were never born…
To be honest, going back and just taking Hitler or any similarly historically important person out of the equation is likely enough to do that, for most people, given the impact he had on the world, or at the least removes the reason for you to go back in time, so presumably if you’re seriously contemplating doing this, whatever time travel mechanism you have going on probably has to be one where you are shielded from the consequences of whatever changes you make anyway.
Your authoritative replies about something that is a complete fiction is a bit worrying.
you have going on probably has to be one where you are shielded from the consequences of whatever changes you make anyway.
That’s the fun about making shit up, you chose the rules that apply.
If time travel is possible, and it isn’t the “going to another universe” kind, then it would be impossible to do anything that would cause a paradox. You exist in the timeline, therefore any attempts to change that have failed/will fail.
then it would be impossible to do anything that would cause a paradox.
You are making shit up and then saying there are rules?
Time-travel is a narrative device, the rules are what ever the writer decides.
You are making shit up and then saying there are rules?
I am saying that this would be a rule for time travel to ever make sense.
Time-travel is a narrative device, the rules are what ever the writer decides.
I am aware of that, but writers could at least put a little thought into it.
So… The TVA?
Killing Reagan does not change the political climate that allowed him to rise to power
You’re both right and wrong. While it wouldn’t change the circumstances that led to his election directly, he himself played a big part in CREATING those circumstances and perpetuating them to the point of the Trump cult eventually becoming all but inevitable.
Who knows? Maybe if we got rid of Reagan early enough, Bush the elder would work towards the “open borders” he argued for during the primary debate against him.
That’s just one of dozens if not hundreds of issues where Bush the elder becoming potus earlier would, while not great, be much preferable to 8 years of Reagan. Hell, who knows? Might have made a more left wing candidate than Clinton the next president!
PS: everyone seems to be forgetting that, on top of his OWN bad policy choices, the country was pretty much run by the throat goat drug demonizer Nancy and his favorite astrologer towards the end where the dementia had made him incapable of doing much himself.
The trick with Reagan is to shoot him at the end of his union leader period, in a way that incriminates a conservative group.
Just go a bit farther back and teach Bonzo how to do the deed.
I just had the same thought, then went down an entire rabbit hole of who would actually be too blame. You’re basically looking at social evolution, over millions of years, and trying to find the “start”. It’s impossible. Pick a spot, and pull.
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The thing is that often those people created that climate. This was the case with hitler and today similar thing is being done with trump.
I don’t know about Trump. But the climat that allowed Hitler to gain traction was widespread poverty and hopelessness in post world war one Germany.
To do a real change in the course of history, kill Calvin, the very moment after he was born, thus killing Calvinism in its cradle.
But then who will talk to Hobbes?
Why not just strangle Jesus in his manger?
Definitely no Calvinism then.
You’re assuming he existed and was necessary for the cult to start. Paul may be a better target.
You don’t have to assume Jesus existed, you just have to accept the historical evidence which there is plenty of
You’ll need to get Luther, too.
Time traveller: I did it boss, I killed Hitler!
Boss: thats weird, the future didnt change. Are you sure?
TT: Yep he was in a concrete room full of swastikas sitting next to a dead lady. Shot him right in the head.
Based
Based as fuck and Reddit offending.
Love it
How would it offend reddit?
Why would this offend Reddit?
All you really need to do is make sure the 1939 Code of the Secret Service never gets made. Jerry Parr never joins, no one saves Reagan.
That or talk Taft into conceding the Republican nomination in 1912 so that Roosevelt would have overseen WWI, rather than one of the guys that literally wrote Southern Revisionist bullshit, among many other things.
Fuck Woodrow Wilson with a Louisville Slugger.
Girls, D’ya have some spare bullets for Thatcher? And Rutte?
Is this girl power?
Context about what this guy did?
As a senator of California: enacted the beginning of gun control to stop black men from arming themselves against racist corrupt cops
As a president: crippling the American middle class to enrich the upper class wealthy elites and solidifying their control
Ahh So fuck him. No gender gap involved
He did a lot of shitty things, but IMO the biggest was that between him and Thatcher in the UK, they shifted the western world economy towards neoliberalism. The biggest problem with that, amongst many other problems, is that it prioritised short term gains over long term sustainability.
That bit about it not being sustainable is why everything has been getting gradually shittier since about 2010. It’s hard to look back on the last 40 years and not see the ideology as being much more than an asset strip of our public sectors and a carte blanche for bankers to fuck about without consequence.
Ronald Reagan?
forget reagan, who invented the time machine?
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Yeah… I didnt know him few minutes before. And i still dont know what he did
Basically, popularized the neoliberal economic policies that have systematically ground down workers rights, pay, and civil liberties in America all while adopting an extreme interventionist attitude that led to him directly supporting fascists across the world, especially in South America.
Ignored the AIDs crisis because it was killing gay people and drug users, so he loved it.
Started the War on Drugs, which in addition to the massive death toll and creation of massive criminal empires to supply the need turned American cops into a paramilitary force.
Like, we can be here all day. Guy sucked so hard in addition to all his outright evil he literally took scheduling advice for press conferences from a fucking astrologer. Just the dumbest, most malicious bastard to be in the office that we can’t prove owned slaves.
Richard Nixon started the war on drugs.
True, though Reagan passed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Drug_Abuse_Act_of_1986 which turned drug punishments from rehabilitative to punitive and was basically a way to lock up as many black people as possible for as long as possible. Another success for the “War on Drugs”. (Read: War on Black People)
After the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, the number of black people sent to federal prison skyrocketed from approximately 50 in 100,000 adults to approximately 250 in 100,000 adults.
Deregulation, “trickle down economics”, etc. He was one of the steps down toward the toilet the Republican party is today.
More like a leap than a step tbh. SO much of what’s destroying the country today started under him.
no one has even given you the worst stuff so far for some reason?
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after receiving reports that Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against his own people, Reagan funded… Saddam Hussein
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and then after there was another attack on the Kurds, killing 5000 with a chemical weapon, Reagan swiftly went into action and… gave them more money and advice, AND vetod a UN resolution to condemn Hussein
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he did make a law to make it illegal to do what he did in the last two points, but then not only continued to do it to break his own law, but broke it again in also selling weapons to Hussein’s enemy in Iran. So now he’s funding both sides of the war.
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and then he did it again in selling weapons to Nicaragua
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and then formed the Nicaraguan contra in order to help terrorists overthrow the democratic government
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and did it again in Iran, which is what formed Al Qaeda.
damn
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He was an actor/celebrity who somehow became US president. Usual pro-corporate, racist republican politician.
The actor?
One visited the Romans and saw what wonders the first Western Empire wrought. The other fella fully sold out everyone to the wealthy. Guess who gets shot!
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Nah, I’m with the ladies here. Rome had it’s pros and cons, but Reagan should have been catapulted into some lava the first time he said he was getting into politics.
She’s madly in love with Jodie Foster?
To be fair… as a boy… this is my time machine hitlist…
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Deliver the metric standard to the united states. Worth noting, the reasons and story of how america stuck to imperial is pretty crazy. Politics as usual, but also ships lost at sea and pirates.
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Regan
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Roberson. He invented the square drive screw head, but wouldn’t license it out, so it was eventually overtaken by phillips head screws. Due to this, humanity has been cursed to stipping screw heads and having drivers pop out for centuries.
I thought Phillips was good is square better? Sorry completely new to this stuff.
Phillips was intentionally desinged to push the bit out of the screw to stop overtightening. The result is as it is pushed out, the driver will strip the screw head. This is fine if your worried about overtightening so much that you would rather have a stripped head than an overfightened screw.
The cost to benefit dont add up in my opinion.
Benefits - dont overtighten as easy.
Cost - stripped screws on tightening. Driver pops out while tightening. Driver pops out on loostening. Stripped screws on losstening seized/rusted screws.
I would much rather just not overtightening a square head than dealing with all the stripped screws. In either falise case, the only solution is a drilled out screw. I find stripped out screws to be much more common than broken screws due to overtightening in a ratio of probably 100:1.
Thanks that a great summarization and I can understand why there would be sub-optimal for construction
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