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    You cannot put DRM in stepper motors. This law is dumb.

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      Hey now, don’t give them any ideas… Next thing you know all stepper motors will require daily inspection before use by a robocop placed in every home.

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    Go fuck yourself America.

    Control your fucking guns and this wouldn’t be necessary.

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    You can buy whole kits to build your own, the capacity to control what is made with the is about as much as if you tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

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      tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

      Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.

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        Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing

        And like what about other CNC machines?

        I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately

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          I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.

          Or worse.

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            I’m pretty sure that’s already illegal in CA

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              I think at this point it easier to list what isn’t illegal in California.

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            Neat, I would’ve assumed you’d need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Kinda want to know how to do it myself, since I own the former but not either of the latter.

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              It won’t be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn’t mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.

              And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.

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              The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it’s also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.

              You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.

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                Guess I ought to go find a set of machining schematics.

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                  If you’re near me I’ll loan you the gig, the end mills,and support to make an AR lower in about 2 hours.

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              Gah how can I forget about the shovel AK???

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          Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.

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            zip guns, lets bring in slam fired shotguns.

            Never doubt the ingenuity of man killing other men.

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              Pipe bombs are not exactly uncommon. Most of those are exactly that. Pipe and nails, packed with homemade explosives.

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          If I’m not mistaken, this DOES cover ALL manufacturing devices, and if it doesn’t, it will in the future

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          Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.

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        Actually ammo reloaded at home shoots better than factory ammo this is a known occurance. And guns put together with kits usually shoot better and have less problems than mass produced factory ones.

        Guns aren’t really that difficult to make. Hell that Japanese guy shot Shinto Abe with a gun he made himself although bit of a different thing because it used a battery to ignite the gunpowder but still the same idea.

        Making guns isn’t hard to do.

        3d printed ones are a joke though. You can only use them a few times before they become even more dangerous and unpredictable. Anyone who wanted to use an actual firearm would never use a 3d printed gun.

        Maybe one of those 200K metal 3d printers or whatever. But at that point it would be easier to machine the parts yourself out of metal. It really isn’t as difficult as you seem to think it is to do that.

        If they wanted gun control (which California already has a bit more of than other States) then they could pass a law doing that. This is 100% a surveillance law.

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        Tell me you know nothing about metalworking and firearms, without telling me you know nothing about metalworking and firearms.

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      Or just go to a bordering state, buy one, and come back

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        Printer manufacturers won’t make state-specific versions of printers. This is going to screw all of us.

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        blows dust off classic Fellowes floppy disk caddy

        “Gimme some sugar, baby!”

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          Or I don’t and I have no worries as I trust NOTHING.

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            I know that a Samsung teevee disconnected from the internet will try and use another appliances internet connection if it can. Gotta imagine this is possible in other devices, too.

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              Can you share more info on this? I’m interested in the technical aspect how this is done, specifically which devices it uses?

              For instance, say, a smart speaker, may have Bluetooth and WiFi, but I’m not sure any halfway comprehensive network stack I’d even implemented that could be used as a proxy, let alone autonomously remotely reconfigured to do so.

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                If memory serves correctly it was another Samsung device it was leveraging which makes more sense. There were other occasions where it had once been attached to WiFi for a firmware update, disconnected and told to forget the network, but attached again to it at least twice. Took the steps to forget the network again and then powered off completely. Subsequent checks show no further connections so far.

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                  I’ve also heard of devices that scan for open networks in the area to use. It’s also possible for them to come with a sim card and use a discounted cell collection, though not sure if any TVs are actually doing that. Could even be a virtual SIM so there’s no card to find and potentially just remove/destroy.

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              Last year I started maintaining a MAC address whitelist on the router: if I haven’t added it, it doesn’t get in or go out. No way in hell I’m putting any household appliance on the allowed list. While an appliance could technically still try to access via an allowed device, they’re all phones and tablets and computers with slightly more robust security than the trust me bro levels of an IoT appliance.

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                Just gotta hope your neighbors don’t connect their devices, and that your own can’t reach the neighbors.

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              Its a felony, we need RF jammers.

              /RF engineer.

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    I don’t really get it other than changing its convenience and efficiency. Superglue and wall loops make stronger parts of multiple pieces than priting it all in one.