the requirement is just crazy. someone has surgery and likely loses their job and thus their medicaid and thus can’t get drugs and physical therapy and all the after stuff.
The cruelty is the point.
It’s just insane someone is sick and they’re like no we wont treat you because you dont work. That’s just astoundingly stupid from so many angles not the least of which is epidemiology. We’re all wary of the next superflu being around the corner and we’ll just leave millions of people untreated because we like making them feel bad about being unemployed.
It won’t take a superflu. Hundreds of thousands of people are going to lose access to their meds. How many of them do you think will turn to crime or simply start causing mayhem as a result of that? Because I assure you it’ll be more than 0%.
The medicaid cuts won’t hit until after the midterms too from what I had read, the republicans have no respect for voters.
Exempting “caregivers” outright is a very tricky thing to do unfortunately, as it opens it up to massive amounts of fraud.
massive amounts of fraud.
Even in your regressive fever dream that you’ve invoked with no evidence, the wealthiest country in the world can afford to give healthcare to all of its citizens and simply chooses not to in order to sate the corporate middlemen who bribe its officials to do so; “fraud” would just be more people having access to the services everyone in every developed nation except the US already has access to.
Do some reading on the NDIS in Australia. Fraud galore. Couple are both registering as each others full time carers and both getting all expenses paid everything, among all the other types of fraud.
I would abide a hundred people engaging in fraud if it gave just one family the chance to live a normal life. You’re so focused on the few gaming the system that you’ve completely forgot the entire point of the program.
It’s never just a few though.
You have to focus on making sure it’s accessible only to those who genuinely need it, otherwise it will be abused beyond belief and will need to be stripped back to the point of uselessness.
Remember that these things are tax payer funded. There’s not unlimited money. Funding 100 fraud cases just to fund a single actual person in need doesn’t work, and should never be looked at as acceptable.
You’re right, actually – let’s talk about that. In reality, a system like I described would never be acceptable. I was being hyperbolic to emphasize that the idea of fraud doesn’t bother me in the slightest, but it must operate within the bounds of reality, of course.
Based on your responses I can guess you are a person of reason and not a troll, so I want to appeal to you as a human being. I spent some time looking at the example you gave, the NDIS. They’ve been in the headlines recently for fraud-related arrests, so I imagine that caught your attention? If you read nothing else, please keep this in mind:
Publications emphasizing welfare fraud, especially without number citations, are trying to undermine your confidence in that system and associate anyone using it with criminals.
The NDIS supports roughly 750k people with a budget of $70b (Butler, the Health Minister, aims to reduce this to 600k and $50b by 2030). If you see numbers in headlines about “plot to defraud NDIS of $200m”, remember that’s not realized fraud, only what would be if they were not stopped. Some realized numbers from a recent press release from the NDIS:
Since the Taskforce was established in November 2022: * Courts have ordered the return of $3.5 million illegally obtained by criminals * $50 million worth of assets linked to NDIS fraud have been seized by the AFP and state-based partners, including properties, gold and silver bullion and luxury vehicles * more than 170 search warrants have been executed supporting NDIA investigations * more than 660 investigations have been launched across 120-plus operations * over 400 investigations are connected to the NDIS * 60 individuals have been referred to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions (CDPP) for criminal prosecution.These numbers are not nothing, but it is eclipsed by the total output of the program. Wherever you got the notion that fraud is rampant and it’s never just a few, I implore you to reconsider that as a valid source of information because they probably just want you to hate the poor and disabled. And recognize, too – the few people committing fraud are being caught! From what I can tell, the NDIS is a healthy, functioning system that gives over a half-million people a chance at dignity and comfort.
I didn’t post links to any news articles for time reasons, but please let me know if you find anything that you want to discuss further, I am open to it. I’m not directing any frustration at you, but this whole conversation is very evocative of the myth of the “welfare queen” that has been debunked over and over and over.
Can you quantify “massive” for me?
Tens/hundreds/thousands of millions of dollars a year.
Oh so you’re just a troll, got it.
