Willis had a deadline of Midnight, Tuesday, September 12th to present her plan to try all 19 defendants at once. She has now done so.
This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) “elsewhere”. Thought it might be welcome to have here.
If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 9/12/2023
Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - Fani Willis has now presented her plan to try all 19 defendants on October 23rd.
Fulton County Superior Judge Scott McAfee has ruled that the cases against Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell will both begin on October 23, 2023. It will be televised.
Trial dates for the other 17 defendants have not yet been established.
Conviction
SentencingWashington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Conviction
SentencingNew York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
SentencingFlorida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
SentencingOther grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.
As a function of the January 6th and Georgia trials, there are now lawsuits in two states to bar Trump from the primary ballot based on the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Colorado: 9/6/2023 - Lawsuit filed.
Minnesota: 9/12/2023 - Lawsuit filed.
A long-shot write in candidate for President has also filed suits seeking to bar Trump from the ballot in Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
A federal lawsuit to bar trump from running in New Mexico has also been filed:
https://www.koat.com/article/federal-lawsuit-remove-donald-trump-new-mexico-ballots/45102809
That’s the same guy with the 11 at the bottom, I’ll get it added.
Aha, I see what you mean… it’s in the list in the last sentence.
I added it. :) It wasn’t in the original article I linked, but it is the same guy.
Quality compilation, great info.
Im starting to think this cheeto guy is bad
October 23, 2023
Do we know at what hour?
Courthouse opens at 8:30 AM Eastern Time, so I’d expect court starts at 9 probably?
6 AM for me. Woof.
15:00 for CEST, thanks.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but none of this is yet related to January 6, that’s still to come, right?
Yes and no. This is the Georgia election interference case, but there are aspects of it that will pop up in the January 6 trial, notably the conspiracy to halt the counting of electors by posting fake electors in multiple states (including Georgia).
Jack Smith was assigned to work on Trump’s potential involvement in January 6, along with Mar a Lago documents, and any related crimes found along the way. So far he’s charged for election interference attempts leading up to J6. He still hasn’t made any incitement or seditious conspiracy charges just yet and may choose not to for whatever reason.
There’s still enough that Trump is kinda legally megafucked as it is.
Isn’t that the whole point of a RICO style case, to have a trial for the whole gang of criminals and make every member culpable for actions taken by all members?
Makes it far easier to get shot callers convicted.
It’s more meant to solve a problem in criminal law.
Before RICO, they weren’t able to get the mob bosses, and leadership. They’d never do anything illegal themselves.
They’d get other people to do it, but they themselves were never guilty. “I wouldn’t know anything about that. I was having dinner at Giovanni’s. Plenty of witnesses!”
So, now RICO becomes law, and it closed that loophole.
Sure, trump didn’t sign any sort of fake electors, but he definitely lead a conspiracy to do so. Sure, trump didn’t lead anyone to Jan 6… but he certainly meant to, and would have, and uh, he lead that conspiracy too
And having it all in one trial prevents parallel finger pointing. “That guy in the other trial is the real boss.” Well, you all worked together, so it really doesn’t make much difference who was management and who was a lackey.
Yup.
It’s very useful for sticking it to someone like trump.
Even if he’s the most incompetent wannabe mob boss ever.
Although, Trump did directly ask the governor to “find” extra votes for him. So he is directly complicit in this case.
He did.
Most incompetent wannabe-monster ever, yes.
Lol
RICO for Trump sounds like a perfect fit. If he isn’t convicted & sentenced to prison then our country is truly lost in corruption.
Because it’s RICO, the whole story gets to be told for every defendant. Only makes sense to do that fewer times as opposed to more times.
Besides which, the first trial is already scheduled for Oct 23. Everyone gets to hear the whole story at that time, and anyone who is not a defendant on that day doesn’t get the opportunity to object to anything, or have any control over the narrative. If you’re not a defendant on Oct 23, the people who are are going to be talking shit about you and pointing fingers at you, and there’s jack and shit you can do about it.
But THAT’S not fair! They spent all that effort having winks and nods with obscure non-direct orders so that they could operate like a mafia with the head being safe. You can’t just try them like a mafia too!!
Yup. And Willis has already run a RICO trial against 35 defendants, although after all the plea deals it ended up at 12 with 11 convictions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Public_Schools_cheating_scandal
That trial took 8 months and was against school teachers.
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Just because the world isn’t fair right now doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to make it so.
I see a friend.
My response Everytime my dad told me what I said when growing up “but it’s our responsibility to make it more so”.
Edit: I understand my words are at conflict I’m fine with that. Trump’s actions would ha e resulted in a vastly more unfair reality for countless millions of people.
Given that, I couldn’t give less of a shit if he and his legal team think he’s being treated unfairly.
If you want to downvoted me for such opinions you’re welcome to.
Fairness to the defendants. If you break the case into multiple trials, the defendants who go first are disadvantaged to ones who come later.
The only fair way is to do it all at once.
