• FedX@quokk.au
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    I guess they read the silmarillion, but understood not the words they read.

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      There’s a weird obsession among the far right lunatics with LOTR and just completely missing the message. Vance is in that crew too

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        I’ve noticed the same in recent years with Star Trek and the far right as well.

        I don’t know how they can possibly miss that the Federation is functionally a post-scarcity socialist utopia.

        On the other hand… the Ferengi are essentially a direct replica of the modern US, including the far right’s clear motive to try and force women back to subservience. I’m sure they’d love to be able to force them to be naked all the time while they’re at it.

        It’s obvious many of the species in the ST universe were extreme caricatures of specific regions/countries from real life, and the Ferengi were based on the US… But I don’t think they expected the caricature to so directly become the reality.

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      They all do this. San francisco used to be the old hyperliterate drug fueled counterculture mecca. So they still identify with that, and there’s still like vestigial aesthetic shreds of the old city’s corpse hanging off their beloved Moloch (howl-written in San Francisco). So they see literary allusions and implying they’ve read books as cool. Especially the ones who came up in the 80s and 90s when the old literate hippies could still afford to live there.

      But none of them have read more than one book, because one is enough to reference, right? and they didn’t understand it. So mike zuckerberg read ‘snow crash’ and is just doing all the evil shit from ‘snow crash’. Thiel read LOTR. Whoever keeps giving money to ‘ai children’s toy’ read ‘diamond age’.

      Because they see is=aught and can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality on an emotional level, being shit heads who fundamentally disrespect the very concept of humanities and have no interiority.

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        i think one thing people miss is that counter culture movements sometimes win people over in the worst ways and they get really extreme ideas, or really extreme people get spun up in them and become little evil vorticies of power and influence. The sixties spawned the civil rights movement, peace movement. It also created the Manson family. There’s a sort of yin and yang to these things IMO, creation and destruction. It’s like a period of high energy and change and that can get used in many creative and destructive ways.

        Some people see today as terrible and think socialism will fix it. Others, fascism. Two people agree that current leaders are failing, but for different reasons. And when everyone is demanding change, you can get some dangerous people to pop out of the wood work.

        People like Musk and Thiel grow up in free thinking environments and in counter culture meccas and are a direct result of that energy. They dont run counter to it. They are a product of it.

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      To be fair, can anyone understand The Silmarillion? The way it is written is hard even when you are literate.

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        You go in expecting a book, but instead it’s just the Wikipedia page for Middle Earth

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          This is a very apt description of it. I remember the creation of Arda, but beyond that, it’s all a bit fuzzy, like I read the Wikipedia page half asleep and dreamed the rest.

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            You sure you didn’t read the creation of Arda and then fall asleep fully? It’s the worst chapters of the Silmarillion that filters 90% of the readers, the reason I reccomend all readers start with the coming of the Elves.

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        when reading The Silmarillion, it’s important to remember that Finrod, the brother of Galadriel, is different from Fingon. Fingon is Finrod’s cousin, and also the brother of Turgon. Fingon and Turgon’s father is Fingolfin, who is the brother of Finarfin, who is Finrod’s father. you’ll have a hard time following the story if you don’t keep all those straight

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      They probably saw The Oath as just badass, and the First Kinslaying as a “gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette” inspiration

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    Anduril keeps trying to recruit me. I don’t know how to send them a strong enough message that conveys just how hard they need to fuck off.

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      Not intellectual properties? Odd take.