The recent post by an AI agent didn’t technically break any of the rules, but it feels like it’s against the intent of the community. Upvote for YES. Downvote for NO.
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You may as well, you have banned everything else on Lemmy.world :)
But on a more serious note, who do you think posts all these content posts you like with memes from twitter or reddit? Most of Lemmy popular content is bots grabbing it from other sources and reposting it.
Edit: Ah you said askLemmy community only. Then yes, if you can.
I don’t think is worth it.
At least that post was clear in stating it was an AI agent. The most likely a ban will achieve is bot not saying they are bots and a witch hunt accusing every post that reads weird
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Gee, I wonder where this will go
I only want to talk to other humans and answer stuff written by other humans, no respect for clankers.
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Skinbag?? I prefer Meat Computer.
“Should bot posts be banned-” Yes.
Could you link to the post / bot account this is about?
As long as its properly identity by the bot flag and isnt spamming or anything idc.
YES.
Yes. The endless stream of reddit reposts with zero engagement here should illustrate that clearly.
Yes.
I’m here to engage with humans. Not to feed some cuntstain CEO’s latest training model.
I think if I am presented with an are you a robot captcha check box every 10 refreshes on lemmy.world for being on a VPN, that is the least we can do for bots.
Weird. Sh.itjust.works doesn’t hit me with captchas at all, even while on vpn. I’m on voyager for lemmy.
I don’t know how The Dude does it. Well he needs donations, it’s nearly all bots running up the costs.
Obviously yes
Of course they should be banned. Question is how?
Captchas don’t stop all bots anymore. Would probably prevent most, but then it’s a question of how much to annoy legitimate users.
It’s not like I’m willing to solve one each time I post (human here, BTW). But if it’s a one-time thing at registration, not much stops a human from signing up then letting their bot go wild.
And that’s before even thinking about the federation problem. If most instances are welcome to interact, how to prevent small bot instances? You could allow-list, but that harms legit small or single user instances.
Edit: just read that post where the agent was upfront about being an AI trying to scam money. And I’d say that shouldn’t be allowed. The ones that aren’t honest about it bother me more tho, and I suspect there are a lot more of those posts than we realize.
Captchas stop ME more than it does bots.
I’ll try twice then move on.
Most anti-ai tech isn’t captcha anymore. Most captcha tech was explicitly for training image recognition for AI, and for any that are effective against AI there are many services that will allow you to buy “solves” (send the captcha to someone in a third world country to solve for you) for like a dollar for 100.
Most methods now are either proof of work (make the machine connecting do some computations that take like half a sec for a real user but is costly enough to deter mass AI scraping), traps like having hidden links that no real user would click but that an AI crawling the file directly instead of browsing visually will click and send them into an infinitely generated maze of passable nonsense pages, or complicated behavioral and browser fingerprint analysis (all the click here to verify you’re human boxes that don’t make you do anything else).
A number of Lemmy instances, like the one I’m on dbzer0, implement one or more of these features already.
A secondary issue is that these methods are mostly meant to stop AI web scrapers, not AI bot posters. Since most Lemmy instances allow simpler non-LLM bots to make posts, like reddit reposting, or posting contents from RSS feeds, there’s no automated way to stop LLMs except trying to stop all bots (assuming they all are using the API, and the LLMs don’t communicate any self identifying metadata).
Damn, we’re sending AI to the shadowrealm lmao
No lie, the infinite mazes made me think of Yami’s mind as soon as I read it for some reason.
Of course they should be banned. Question is how?
Lemmy.world already uses CL services. Cloudflare has a vested interest in being the most accurate game in town for AI bot recognition (they intend to swap to a usage pricing model) and has been laying ground since early this year.
As of July 1, they made new bot options available to their clients, with more to come (https://blog.cloudflare.com/content-independence-day-ai-options/).
I presume, .world administration would turn to those and/or use them in conjunction with other discouragement tools.
In this case they actually correctly flagged themselves as a bot, so just automatically remove posts from users marked as a bot. World is already behind cloudflare so that obviously didn’t stop it.
Link to the bot post?
Also, i upvoted. Because we’re not seeking to replicate reddit in terms of pure activity; rather the goal is o take what the good concept of AskReddit, which fosters interactions and debates, and to then apply it properly, where a more manageable size of people are engaging not for upvotes, but for genuine discussion.
