• @Buffalox
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    11011 months ago

    It is very clear that new content per day has been steadily increasing the past 14 days.

    Lemmy is no longer just promising, it is already good. With signs of getting even better.

    With more active users, more niche communities should soon be able to do fine too.

  • Airehiso
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    6911 months ago

    I’m gonna comment so as to be counted as active.

  • Matharl
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    5511 months ago

    I think it shows that the great migration from Reddit is actually happening. After the 1st of July, we can expect to see Lemmy growing even more since the changes on Reddit are gonna be in full effect.

    • @Candelestine
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      2711 months ago

      Agreed. I imagine the devs and admins here are looking at it as a bit of a deadline of sorts. It’s going to be a big bump in traffic, best to have as much as you can in place.

      If you can have useable app out by then, you’ll get a big sudden surge in interest. It’s just a really nice opportunity for an aspiring dev.

    • @theGimpboy
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      1411 months ago

      I’m really trying, the main thing I miss is the amount of content and the general navigability of reddit. Finding new subs was so easy and lemmy feels harder to just browse imo. I’ve moved to the lemmy RSS and deleted my reddit bookmarks to help keep me from going there out of weakness though.

      We’ll see to what degree the migration stays/works. I would be very happy to see some competition in this space.

    • @[email protected]
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      1011 months ago

      This is great and exciting news, but we do need to keep things in perspective. Jumping to almost 48,000 daily active users is great, but Reddit has about 55 million. That’s essentially a rounding error as far as Reddit is concerned.

      • @setsneedtofeed
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        911 months ago

        People keep wishing death upon Reddit. I understand the emotion, but I wish Reddit a long life. Let it be the grease trap for doomscrollers, reposters, and political and corporate infiltration. I don’t want millions of people to join Lemmy. I want the mythical 1% active content creators to jump ship.

        • @hydra
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          511 months ago

          Yeah, Reddit and 4chan can be containment cesspits while quality discussion moves to Fedi.

      • @[email protected]
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        411 months ago

        I don’t really see a problem with this. We already have enough that I can comment an engage with people. I can already ask a question and have 50 people give genuine thought out responses.

        That’s enough for me.

        We’re only on v0.18, some are not going to want a less refine product and that’s okay. We’re here building the momentum for when it’s read for them.

        • @[email protected]
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          511 months ago

          I don’t disagree necessarily, I just think anyone expecting a mass migration should temper their expectations.

      • @theGimpboy
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        311 months ago

        I’m curious what the make up of people migrating are. It could be the early adopters that helped Reddit build out the platform ahead of Digg collapsing. It could also be people who were looking for an excuse to leave because they didn’t really like Reddit for one reason or another. I think I fall more in the fed up with Reddit and looking for anyone/anywhere doing it better.

    • @[email protected]
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      811 months ago

      I won’t use the official Reddit app, so my phone Reddit usage will drop to zero on July 1st.

    • @setsneedtofeed
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      111 months ago

      As soon as Lemmy gets a proper fully working app, like sync, it will be gangbusters.

  • @[email protected]
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    5111 months ago

    Oh so lurkers aren’t counted as active? That’s even promising since many users on any site never comment or post.

  • @PurpleSquare
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    4711 months ago

    Upping the active count, no lurking for me

  • @danc4498
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    4411 months ago

    So not even counting the lurkers

    • @MicroWaveOP
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      3211 months ago

      Yeah, lurkers aren’t counted. Only those who have commented or posted within a specified period.

      • @Candelestine
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        1111 months ago

        Worth noting we probably have a much higher engagement percentage than the average atm. Young community, cool new idea, gets people excited. Since the service isn’t really ready for primetime yet, the only way to really pitch in and even just vent enthusiasm is to make content. For most of us that don’t have dev skills anyway.

      • SkipperWannabe
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        211 months ago

        Is there some metrics showing number of users with interactions like upvote/downtote?

  • @[email protected]
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    4011 months ago

    Even if you do nothing else, make sure to upvote content and comments, and subscribe to communities. Bringing content over from reddit (or even just googling stuff) to the new applicable community would be extra helpful (a lot of empty communities at the moment).

    Things keep looking better here, so I’m optimistic about lemmy.

  • TheSpookiestUser
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    3711 months ago

    There will probably be another bump on July 1st, and probably more to come as Reddit makes more horrible decisions going forward.

    100% honestly, I’m not married to the whole concept of the Fediverse - I think it’s interesting and solves some problems plaguing modern social media, but has other issues of its own - but Lemmy has, overall, put out a good showing in the various instances’ content so far. So here I am with an account and actively posting. Looking forward to continued growth!

  • Cyzaine
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    3611 months ago

    Thank you for showing the growth in ACTIVE users, not just accounts. Its still impressive, and more truthful!

  • MathAndBall
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    11 months ago

    I’ve been mostly a lurker on Reddit for the past 10 years but something about Lemmy just makes me want to engage in the community more than reddit ever has. Also it’s incredibly impressive how quickly lemmy improved over the last weeks.

  • @BrockSampson
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    3311 months ago

    Just been lurking until now but I guess we can +1 that active user count. Just waiting for sync to add a lemmy app and then it’s full steam ahead.

    • @have_an_ice_day
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      1111 months ago

      Sync is reddit to me, so when it goes down I can’t see myself going back. I set up a Lemmy account yesterday and am impressed so far knowing it’s still in the early stages. I’m excited to see what LJ can do with Lemmy.

  • @breadsmasher
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    2911 months ago

    this keeps getting touted but isn’t it a huge number of bots causing the rise?

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      Bots have inflated the total users count (around 2.4 million), but they aren’t active (yet). So for now active users is a recommended way to measure the fediverse. But once bots start posting, we’ll have to find another way to track real user activity.

      • BasicWhiteGirl
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        1411 months ago

        This is just really disappointing and gross. Is there any way to not have bots absolutely everywhere?

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          Yeah, it’s absolutely disappointing and gross. Bots have been actively probing for obscure instances without registration validation and flocking to them. Good thing the top real lemmy instances (like lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.ca) have been much more vigilant about that.

            • @MicroWaveOP
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              411 months ago

              What’s your take on it?

              • @Candelestine
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                My (different person here) take is it’s probing behavior. Who benefits? Anti-reddit-protest trolls want to see this fail, and some could have the resources. Savvy criminal organizations see potential profit. Major tech companies see at least a research opportunity at minimal expense. White hats want to find and raise awareness of vulnerabilities.

                Only governments would really have no major motive beyond the usual surveillance of a social space. So I think the question should really be, who’s not doing it? Because if people aren’t wholesale fucking around yet, they’ll start very soon. It’s only the savvy or lucky that are aware of us still, but that will not be true for long. Snowball is rolling now, that’s pretty plain to see.

                I mean, we’re just a big and growing pile of consumers. What else do you do with those?

          • @necrxfagivs
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            Are those instances defederating from the bot-filled ones?

            • @MicroWaveOP
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              1211 months ago

              Yeah, those instances are defederating from the bot-filled ones, but new ones are still popping up (although seems to be slowing down a little for now).

              • @necrxfagivs
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                311 months ago

                I hope there’s some way to block that, bots are useful or funny sometimes (like the ones to download videos, reminders, etc). But I asume most of them have the sole purpose of advertising or brigading.

                I can’t wrap my head about Lemmy 0.18 dropping capchas.

          • @AbouBenAdhem
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            Which is a shame, because in theory it seems like creating a self-hosted instance for your personal account has a lot of advantages (not worrying about the host doing something screwy or abandoning the instance, having full control over who you federate with, being able to customize the interface, etc.)

            But that may end up going the way of self-hosted email servers, where differentiating yourself from a spam server becomes impossible and everyone ends up on the equivalent of gmail.

          • spriteblood
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            111 months ago

            If we have the ability to identify them or where they’re coming from, could our various platforms just defederate or block the ones who aren’t dealing with the bot problem down the line?

        • NotAPenguin
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          I don’t see how that could be done, the bot owners can always just spin up their own new instance where they control sign up requirements.

          Other instances can then defederate from the spam instance but they can quickly spin up a new one.

          Gonna be interesting to see how it’s solved.

          • Drunemeton
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            111 months ago

            Require that membership in the Fediverse be approved?

            • NotAPenguin
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              The fediverse is decentralized, anyone can start their own lemmy/kbin/mastodon/whatever server and make an account they just approve themselves.

              If you mean some kind of global approval then that destroys the whole point of the fediverse.

              • Drunemeton
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                111 months ago

                Just throwing out ideas.

                If the Fediverse cannot control the bots then where does that leave actual users?

          • @Omgarm
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            111 months ago

            This is going to be the real skynet fight.

        • @MicroWaveOP
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          1011 months ago

          Because people have been monitoring bot infected instances and have not seen them post or comment (yet).

    • @AussieTom
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      3711 months ago

      My understanding is that’s causing the rise in accounts (2.5m!) not the active accounts data

      • Naminreb
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        If they’re like NewsUser and Botittest, the bots will flood this place when they start. Even though these two good bots have made this place a lot more usable, it feels like that’s what the “All” thread has become. Just news.

        Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.

        Whichever the instances that lowered their guard were, there will be a day they will have to be defederated. It’ll be a test for this place, for sure.

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          Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.

          Same boat as you. It was your comment that made me realize the one filling my feed with nothing but news was all only linkbot and when I blocked it out of curiosity, I could see memes and user posts again. It was posting so often it was literally drowning out every other subject.

          I think it’s nice to keep up with news on a platform that doesn’t seem so US-centric and full of vitriol, and I’ll be sad to see it go. Might turn the block on and off. But I’m already subbed to a news community.

          • @demoDEMON
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            111 months ago

            Dumb question (new to Lemmy) but how does one block bots from feed? Isn’t that up to the community the post originated from?

        • @hydra
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          I already blocked Lemmit from appearing on my feed, but there should be an option to block posts from certain instances from appearing in your feed at all. I really hope we get to fight the bot problem without losing the advantages of federation.

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  • @Clipboards
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    2811 months ago

    The site has felt way more usable in the last week, too. Haven’t had much time to contribute myself, but I was browsing Active last night and thought to myself “hey, this feels just like the Reddit I know and love”

    Once the niche communities take the plunge, its endgame for Reddit

    • @w3lp
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      1111 months ago

      I came here from r/sourdough so… getting there

    • vtez44
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      I doubt many people will move. Most people will just start using the official app or move to another website. Lemmy doesn’t have much content (yet), and that’s yet worse than not having a good app. They will just quick look and go back, if even.

      • Sneckster
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        At this point content is definitely needed more than users. I really to stick with lemmy but the content just isn’t here… Like you said (yet)

        Those Reddit echo bots are really starting to annoy me now too.

        I’m still hopeful though, I don’t want to go back to Reddit

        • @linearchaos
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          1311 months ago

          I rarely posted content on reddit, but I engaged a lot.

          I realized that once I got here, I needed to post content if I wanted to encourage others to do the same.

          We need both content and engagement. Engagement drives the content, it’s a feedback loop.

          • @Candelestine
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            311 months ago

            Yeah same. I’m a commenter at heart. But, writing is a skill, so it translates into a few things I can post about that might be of value to others.

        • @Evono
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          411 months ago

          Just post content even if you mirror some from reddit from your favorite communitys just post and others will start.

    • @ikidd
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      511 months ago

      Connect for Lemmy is in the Play store and not bad.

      • @nickpeirson
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        211 months ago

        I’m currently using Jerboa on android. Anything stand out that Thunder or Summit do better that’s worth me taking a look at?

        • @V4uban
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          211 months ago

          Mostly the interface. I think it’s more a preference thing than an objective aspect

      • @MicroWaveOP
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        211 months ago

        Thanks for the link. I’ve added it to the post as well.

        • @V4uban
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          211 months ago

          That’s nice, thanks

    • @Pipeta
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      111 months ago

      Hadn’t heard of Liftoff, will have to try it out. I’m using Jerboa right now and although a little bit buggy while scrolling it does the job. It’s also pretty similar in terms of looks to RiF, which is what I was using until all this mess and it helps a little in the transition. Thanks for recommending!