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And now for the secret ingredient… fear.
I see we are using the Gordon Ramsay cookbook today. I prefer Justin Wilson, where the secret ingredient is wine for the cook
Personally, I prefer Alton Brown, where the secret ingredient is goofiness.
Personally I prefer Jamie Oliver where all the ingredients are olive oil
I’m a fan of James May’s secret ingredient, yelling “oh cock!” every so often.
I’m a fan of his other secret ingredient. CHEESE.
There’s an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark from old school Nickelodeon (1992 to 1996) that had this as the exact premise.
Gotta have fear
Just make sure to separate the yellow fear from the white fear.
Once I got a double yellow fear. That was a good day.
Don’t pass on the double solid fear.
Yep, especially if you’re a Green Lantern
You should use all-purpose fear, bread fear will make the cake tough.
If you don’t have fresh fear, canned fear works fine.
If you don’t have fresh vedk store bought is okay
All I could find was “I can’t believe it’s not vedk”. Is that ok?
It just won’t be as schmonfy, should be good enough though
I like how it just explicitly refuses to label the butger bowls
Because deep down he knows that is butter not butger.
Fear is my favourite type of egg to use in cakes.
Yeah here I was using love. Never thought of fear. I imagine it to have an essence of piss of the pants.
Fear of getting salmonella.
I don’t know, it does recommend eggs ol like all master chiefs.
Go away, I’m Batin’
Crushed Walduts.
Walduts.
Vegeuble extract
If you don’t have it in your kitchen then why are you even there?
I usually replace it with butger
25 eggs!?
Nah just 0.25 eggs
I wouldn’t use Cugar in your carrot cake. It will make it too savory.
But throwing in some extra walnut with three different labels is perfectly fine though.
Oh no, vanilla extract is back!
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Every time I see posts like this I remember a frequent argument I had in the early 2000’s.
Every time I talked with photography students (I worked at an art school) or a general photography enthusiast, I got the same smug predictions about digital photography. The resolution sucked, the color sucked, the artist doesn’t have enough control, etc. They all assured me that digital photography might be nice for casual vacation photos and maybe a few specialty applications but no way, no how, not even when hell freezes over would any serious photographer ever consider digital.
At the time I would think back to my annoying grade school discussions with teachers who assured me that (dot matrix) printers just sucked. Serious writing was done by hand and if you didn’t know cursive you might as well be illiterate.
For some reasons people keep forgetting that technology marches on. The dumb glitches that are so easy to make fun of now, will get addressed. There are billions of dollars pouring into AI development. Every major company and country is developing them. The pay rates for AI developer jobs attract huge amounts of people to solve those problems.
And up to now we have zero indication that the current approach isn’t a dead end. Bill Gates, for instance, thinks that GPT-4 is a development plateau: https://heise.de/-9337989
Bill has made some famously bad predictions in the past. Here’s a small sample https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-worst-things-bill-gates-ever-said-a6990046.html
It’s possible that the current $100 billion market size of AI and all the AI job openings are completely misplaced but that’s indication that a lot of people have pretty high expectations that AI will continue to grow.
Ah, yes, famous expert in artificial intelligence and machine learning, Bill Gates. I’m personally curious what Taylor Swift thinks about Chat GPT 5, myself. That girl’s got a lot of money, which means she must be smart and has smart opinions on topics like generative AI and the efficacy of currently undeveloped LLMs.
We have plenty of indication, when we look at past technologies that plenty thought to have plateaued still being improved.
Didn’t Bill Gates think spam would been a thing of the past … in 2006.
My junk folder disagrees.
Certainly, but none of those technologies completely replaced things. The existing way of doing things became hobbies and remain the preference over the technology which disrupted the field.
Not to mention, technologies will sometimes flop, only to resurface later in a completely different package. The PDA was maybe popular for a year? But now we all have smartphones which effectively capture that concept. The Wii U failed, but the Switch has been wildly popular.
It’s probably premature to say that AI will completely fail, but also that AI will completely replace everything. I just used a Polaroid camera this past weekend at a wedding, and it was enjoyable in a way digital cameras or phones wouldn’t have been. I still write things out at work, particularly if I’m trying to wrap my head around some math or a difficult concept. Typing it out doesn’t work as well.
I think it is safe to say that there are some things AI will never be able to replace, just like there are some things digital cameras couldn’t replace, nor our phones.
There’s either the “it’ll never work” take or the “it’ll destroy the industry!” take, and both are kinda childish. New technologies are tools, nothing more, nothing less. Learn to use them and they’ll make your life easier. Integrate them if they’re threatening your livelihood. Learn and adapt, it’s how progress has always worked.
Same. Remember the same arguments. Heck I still get into it with clients sometimes. Usually snark works
Me: wasn’t 2013 nice? I had a full set of hair and didn’t have to diet, but as much as I might miss 2013 it isn’t 2013 anymore. Time to move forward.
I’m guessing this argument has been going on longer than either of us can remember.
There was a long time when guns were considered interesting toys but not something a sane person would take onto the battlefield; especially not without some sort of backup. Hell, the “three musketeers” were more known for their fencing than their firearms skill.
I’m sure back in the day some chucklehead complained that papyrus was cute but anything important had to be carved in stone tablet.
>sugar
>sugar
>potper
>egs
>fear
>butger
>milk
>miilk
Potper… I can’t stop giggling
It’s shocking to me how many people try to make cakes without fear. It just doesn’t taste the same without it
Oh I wouldn’t dare
Last time I tried that I burned my entire kitchen down
Without fear … all you have is drywall compound and a great mix to patch a few holes in the wall.
the real cake is the holes we filled along the way
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You bad spellers are saving our jobs. Thank you.
Yor welbcumb.
Why is it even called artificial intelligence, when it´s obviously just mindless artificial pattern reproduction?
Because that’s what intelligence is. There’s a very funny video floating around of a squirrel repeatedly trying to bury an acorn in a dog’s fur and completely failing to understand why it’s not working. Now sure, a squirrel is not the smartest animal in the world, but it does have some intelligence, and yet there it is just mindlessly reproducing a pattern in the wrong context. Maybe you’re thinking that humans aren’t like that, that we make decisions by actually thinking through our actions and their consequences instead of just repeating learned patterns. I put it to you that if that were the case, we wouldn’t still be dealing with the same problems that have been plaguing us for millennia.
Machine Learning is such a better name. It describes what is happening - a machine is learning to do some specific thing. In this case to take text and output pictures… It’s limited by what it learned from. It learned from arrays of numbers representing colours of pixels, and from strings of text. It doesn’t know what that text means, it just knows how to translate it into arrays of numbers… There is no intelligence, only limited learning.
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Only sometimes
sometimes worse
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Are we so different?
Isn’t meaning just comparing and contracting similarly learned patterns against each other and saying “this is not all of those other things”.?
The closer you scrutinize meaning the fuzzier it gets. Linguistically at least, though now that I think about it I suppose the same holds true in science as well.
Yes, we absolutely are different. Okay, maybe if you really boil down every little process our brains do there are similarities, we do also do pattern recognition, yes. But that isn’t all we do, or all ML systems do, either. I think you’re selling yourself short if you think you’re just recognising patterns!
The simplest difference between us and ML systems was pointed out by another commenter - they are trained on a dataset and then they remain static. We constantly re-evaluate old information, take in new information, and formulate new thoughts and change our minds.
We are able to perceive in ways that computers just can’t - they can’t understand what a smell is because they cannot smell, they can’t understand what it is to see in the way that we do because when they process images it is exactly the same to a computer as processing any other series of numbers. They do not have abstract concepts to relate recognised patterns to. Generative AI is unable to be truly creative in the way that we can, because it doesn’t have an imagination, it is replicating based on its inputs. Although, again, people on the internet love to say “that’s what artists do”, I think it’s pretty obvious that we wouldn’t have art in the way we do today if that was true… We would still be painting on the walls of caves.
Machine Learning isn’t a good name for these services because they aren’t learning. You don’t teach them by interacting with them. The developers did the teaching and the machine did the learning before you ever opened the browser window. You’re interacting with the result of learning, not with the learning.
Learnéd Machines
Honestly I think it’s marketing ai sells better then machine learning programs
AI is also the minmax algorithm for solving tic-tac-toe, and the ghosts that chase Pac-Man around. It’s a broad term. It doesn’t always have to mean “mindblowing super-intelligence that surpasses humans in every conceivable way”. So it makes mistakes - therefore it’s not “intelligent” in some way?
A lot of the latest thought in cognitive science couches human cognition in similar terms to pattern recognition - some of the latest theories are known as “predictive processing”, “embodied cognition”, and “4E cognition” if you want to look them up.
Because it is intelligent enough to find and reproduce patters. Kind of like humans.
But it is artificial.
Well, I think it comes down to a fundamental belief on consciousness. If you’re non religious, you probably think that consciousness is a purely biological and understandable process. This is complete understandable and should be replicable. Therefore, artificial intelligence. But it’s hard as dong to do well.
Why the hell are you being downvoted? I thought Lemmy had no religious fundamentalists or spiritualists
I guess the same reason why smartphones are called “smart” phones.
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Butger
Too many people forget the veເk…
