I cannot understand how some people are living with this. It is unbearable

  • @elliot_crane
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    My retired parents live with me. I went ahead and put a PiHole on our home wifi. A day later my mother was literally complaining that she couldn’t click on ads on facebook. I told her those are ads and they track her and she says “well everyone likes to use the internet how they like to use it… can you put it back the old way? I want to look at these shoes”. Can’t fucking win.

    • @jarredpickles87
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      My wife turns off the WiFi on her phone to avoid the pihole. She does this so she can watch the ads in her games to get an extra life or whatever. You’ll never win on that front and I won’t either.

      • SuperDuper
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        I get so pissed off when I try to play sudoku on the bus and it forces me to watch 30 seconds of ads between each game. And then during the game I have to ignore the flashing banner ad at the bottom of the screen.

      • @[email protected]
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        1711 months ago

        It’s a decent value to play the ad while you actually pay attention to the show you’re “watching” for 30 seconds.

          • @jarredpickles87
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            Oh my god, this statement hits too hard, especially relating to my wife and things like this. She’s very resistant to change.

      • @Bytemeister
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        Same. My wife gets mad that her ad emails won’t load on her phone. I’m like, hun, just delete them, we don’t have money anyway.

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      People actually CLICK on ads??? Genuinely never had even an iota of desire to do that. I forgot it was even an option.

      • @[email protected]
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        2611 months ago

        Boomers that aimlessly surf facebook. They’re still trying to figure out what the use-cases are for the internet thingy they pay $60 a month for.

      • @neanderthal
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        1511 months ago

        I do when it is advertising something I hate. Publishers get dollars for clicks, pennies for impressions. That way I force someone I dislike to give money to someone I like.

        • Jamie
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          2711 months ago

          I use adnauseum on my computer so it blocks the ads, but also sends a request simulating a click to the ad network. Based on average CPM, I’ve cost advertisers like $300 so far.

          • @Nightsoul
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            711 months ago

            Is that a browser extension?

            • @Viking_Hippie
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              1011 months ago

              Yep. The developer recommends to run it in stead of rather than alongside uBlock Origin, though, which is a dealbreaker for me 🤷

              • @[email protected]
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                That’s because it’s built on top of uBlock. If you click on the extension it even has the uBlock logo. It’s literally just uBlock except it clicks on ads in the background. It even tells you how much projected money you cost them for clicking their shitty ads. And the websites gets paid. Only the advertisers get shafted.

                Honestly I’m astonished it’s not more popular.

                • @Viking_Hippie
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                  1111 months ago

                  So you’re saying that it does literally everything uBlock does AND fucks over advertisers?

                  If there’s an option to shaft specific sites run by people you dislike too, I’m in! 😄

            • @[email protected]
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              811 months ago

              Yes but Google banned them from the extension store so if you’re using Chromium you need to sideload it.

          • @[email protected]
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            611 months ago

            Interesting. But wouldn’t that still decrease my privacy? Advertisers still won’t know which ads I’m interested in, but they will know what sites I visit and can still build a profile from that data.

            • Fushuan [he/him]
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              411 months ago

              Some people care more about fucking advertisers than privacy, as long as they don’t have to suffer through the ads themselves. But yeah, blocking is more private than fake clicking.

    • Boozilla
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      2411 months ago

      I got a lot of complaints from family, too. Especially because I block Meta. I just let them bitch and I tell them things like “those ads are broken because of malware” which isn’t entirely untrue.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      1811 months ago

      but this means that she would see the ads but not being able to click? I don’t get it. They should had just disappeared, no? Or was she complaining that she wasn’t seeing the ads?

      • @elliot_crane
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        1511 months ago

        The ads still appear in the facebook feed but clicking them results in a “this site could not be found” or similar error, is how I understood it to work. I know the PiHole basically makes it so the routes from “whateveradwebsite.com” end up not resolving to an IP address. I’m not sure how FB is serving them; so the text/image content might be coming from an FB server and the link is just an ad URL with a bunch of tracking info on it.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          yeah you’re right actually. I always use it combined with a local browser adblock and didn’t think of that

      • @[email protected]
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        PiHole just blocks the DNS. Facebook serves ads from their own DNS so it’s not possible to block them in that way. Same with YouTube, I believe.

        But if they click it, it usually ports you through a tracker link so they can track your clicks, and that’s easy enough to block.

    • @Katana314
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      1111 months ago

      I know it’s rare, but there have been times I intentionally clicked on an ad - if it genuinely seemed like a unique or useful product I had some interest in.

      I imagine the fake-social-post type of ads are worth blocking though since it’s based in dishonesty and deception.

      • Jamie
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        911 months ago

        I block ads on all my devices, but I assume they’re scams by default when I do see them.

      • andrew_bidlaw
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        Some shops I only used once still send me their written newsletters and I don’t mind checking them if they do them entertaining, or about some niche products, even if I don’t consider buying them at all. I miss well-designed full-page print ads in magazines, or just those with a catchy imagery\wording. Now these all feel like a vintage, premium product, akin to vinyl records, if compared to what garbage web serves today. Such a weird thing to be nostalgic about, but I hope oldschool advertisers\smm persons feel it on their end too.

        • Flax
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          411 months ago

          I get Royal Mint and Royal Mail news leaflets. I just like looking at pictures of stamps and coins lmao

    • Fushuan [he/him]
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      1011 months ago

      “I’ll try to fix it. Now that I put it in taking it down brings the Internet down. Sorry, let me think how to fix this”

      And literally put up excuses until they get used to it. I’m sorry but they made you do stuff you didn’t enjoy for your own good while telling white lies, it’s time for payback.

    • Flax
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      811 months ago

      Great aunt was talking about all of these anti-aging pills that she was going to get

    • Orionza
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      511 months ago

      Hi, butting in here, hope you don’t mind a question - is there a place to go with basic I instructions on how I can set this up too? Thanks!

      • @elliot_crane
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        411 months ago

        Yeah for sure. I’m no expert by any means, but I can talk through what I did.

        I used the instructions directly from their code repository: https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/#one-step-automated-install (I used option 1, the automated install). I did this on an old RPi2B that I had laying around.

        After I set up the pi, I got its MAC address. I used this to set a static IP address in my router settings. This is important to make sure the pi keeps the same IP at all times. Then, also in my router settings, I set the DNS server to be the pi’s static IP address.

        After all that was done, I just plugged the pi into a dedicated power supply and rebooted the router.

    • I Cast Fist
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      You forgot the endless popups in the 2000s, which led to every browser integrating a popup blocker since then (and which often fail to stop actual malicious popups, no less)

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        Yes, in these years are a lot of pop ups, pop unders among other crap in some pages, but normally in most pages there was, apart of an ocassinal Banner not much else to justify an adblocker. But nowadays, between ads, clickbaits, cookie consent, adblocker detections and ant-adblocker, paywalls and other shit like these, you need a lot of extensions and scripts if you don’t want that the page fills your browser and HD with all kind of PUPs and unwanted scripts, apart of an ad/trackerblocker. It’s a cats and mouse game between companies which want to track and profile you with all kind of dirty tricks, and the user and devs continuos searching contrameasures to show them the middle finger.

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      reminds me of this scene from Idiocracy

      reminds me of this scene from Idiocracy

    • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻
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      How about those mobile ones where they gradually move in from the sides to form a border around the content until you tell them to fuck off

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      Almost, but needs a few tweaks:

      • Content should be border-to-border in the 2000 panel.

      • Needs to be 3 lines of content in 2010 and only two lines of content in 2018.

      • 2018 needs a slide-over autoplay video on the bottom-left of the content space.

      • @MalachaiConstant
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        911 months ago

        2018 also needs one of those chatbot popovers in the bottom right of the page

    • @ohlaph
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      611 months ago

      Basically. However, in early 2000, it had popups all over.

  • SamXavia
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    @gohixo9650 I turned off my ad blocker by accident the other day and freaked out as the internet was unbearable.

    • @Bluefruit
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      Me everytime i use a broswer without ublock. Ill open a link here in lemmy without opening it externally to firefox and dear god my eyes.

      Ublock makes the internet a better place. Or at least it shoves the bad stuff under the bed lol.

      • @[email protected]
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        111 months ago

        Like “bruh wtf is that, I will install a REALLY good Addon to your browser, is that okay? (yes it is okay saying no is stupid) good.”

    • @[email protected]
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      2811 months ago

      I always forget about my adblocker until I need to use a browser without one. It’s really pretty miserable.

      • Jamie
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        I helped someone I know out with a thing on their computer and got blasted by ads because they didn’t use an ad blocker.

        Those two minutes on the Internet really had me questioning how anyone manages to use it raw without going insane.

        • @[email protected]
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          1011 months ago

          Maybe if we tell them uBlock Origin is a condom for their browser, they’ll understand?

          What a sentence to type out

          • Jamie
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            611 months ago

            I see it that way. You don’t dive into some strange without protection, don’t let your computer do it with websites.

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              It’s always difficult with digital matters, since there isn’t anything tangible and concrete to show.

              Like, there’s no shady person following them with a notebook and reporting back to their boss all day, but that is kinda what’s happening, just invisible to the user.

              My pihole is pretty good at showing family how many connections their apps make are completely unnecessary to their actual functions. That’s a good illustration to start with.

  • @TryingToEscapeTarkov
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    I miss the IT Crowd and I am sad a show like it will never exist again.

  • @Rolando
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    As I recall, back in the late 90s there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about a man who loved receiving email spam. After a long day’s work he would go home and relax by looking through his email spam and order things.

    Some people are just like that.

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      911 months ago

      I don’t like spam but I do like a good scam email, especially if they’ve actually given it some plot.

    • @[email protected]
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      Tbh, I can relate to some degree. Sometimes I really love watching TV commercials. My favorite is teleshopping

      • @Rolando
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        Yeah, when I watch sports events from other countries it’s interesting to see the commercials, even if I don’t speak the language. It’s when I have to watch 20 minutes of the same commercials every hour that it gets bad.

      • Ser Salty
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        Infomercials are incredibly entertaining TV and I will stand by that statement

  • netburnr
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    3911 months ago

    I have it on good authority, if you type Google into Google, you can break the internet.

    • @coffeesnob
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      Wait a minute, the “Elders of the Internet”!? The Elders of the Internet know who I am!? You’ve got to let me have it!

      • macniel
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        no no. The Elders of the Internet would never stand for that! The Internet needs to get straight back to Big Ben.

  • @_number8_
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    is this how people do memes in 2023? shit, i miss impact

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    I used this scene in a cybersecurity training session. I knew it got the point across, when our resident ad-clicker asked me for advice to avoid that situation.

    E: she asked for advice for her home computer, as she didn’t understand that “at home and at work” meant “at home and at work with any device, not just work’s”

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    Literally the Windows Desktops+Applauncher / Mac Desktop+Panel of people making waaay more Money that I am.

    Like Mac really, who thought just piling up apps in an always shown panel is a good idea?

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      I have spent a lot of time around a lot of IT workers and I am literally the only person I’ve ever seen on a project that has an ad blocker installed in their browser.

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    2111 months ago

    remember when youtube ads were those banners that appeared on the video and had a close button

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      Oh god

      But seriously, my favorite are online stores for products, but you can’t buy their product because they have pop-up ads for other products that interfere with their websites you can’t actually view or buy their fucking product.

      It’s like, insane. And probably why Amazon still exists.

      At this point I just want the internet to go away

    • @[email protected]
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      i got stuck on the second screen

      i’m not sure if what seems to be a poignant interactive demonstration of internet UX enshitification is shallow/incomplete or depends on javascript/trackers that my browser is blocking. it’s ironic either way

      • Alex
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        it might have js, I’m not sure. It isn’t the true modern web experience without 12MB of JS on a blog post/article, though :)

  • @guy
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    I don’t have adblock on my work computer. I don’t want it interfering with webdev and I’ve found it to do so in the past. But it’s interesting, the dichotomy between sites I use as development resources vs the rest of the web. My phone and home computer are unbearable without adblock, but on my work computer, the ads are hardly noticeable really.

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      Its ultimately based on the sites you frequent at work vs home. The sites i read stuff at work tend to be less in your face with ads,.so you know its there but theyre less distracting.

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        A few well placed and tasteful ads are fine. And sites you tend to read at work show it can be done.

      • @[email protected]
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        I imagine developers are more likely to use ad block than majority population, so the related sites might have to be more tactical

  • Radioactive Radio
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    My former co-worker was daily driving his browser without any extensions and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I was watching him work one day and he was literally fighting a battle against the unholy pop-ups just tryna download some free fonts. What could’ve been done in 2 clicks took him minutes to do trying to close all the ads and tabs kept opening, videos kept playing. It was painful just to watch.

  • @[email protected]
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    I have a friend who has their entire center 5th of their laptops screen just dead. they move windows around it to deal with it. I look at the way they’re using their computer and like I can barely reach it at their window size but it’s better than paying the $500 MacBook repair to them

  • lorez
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    I’m noticing some sites have become pretty unusable on mobile and I dunno what to do.

          • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє
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            411 months ago

            I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop devices. I’ve tried using Firefox on Android. It’s slow, and breaks on some sites. If you use it, good for you. I’m not gonna use it just for virtue signalling.

            • R0cket_M00se
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              Virtue signalling and armchair activism is all they know.

            • Gormadt
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              I’ve never had issues with Firefox on Android, and because I use Firefox on desktop I can sync my browsers between devices

              Honestly I find it faster on my phone than chrome

    • @[email protected]
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      If you don’t need access to another VPN, Blokada does device-wide ad blocking on iOS and Android.