Special counsel Jack Smith took a meeting with attorneys representing former President Donald Trump earlier this year and reportedly sat in stone-cold silence while they pleaded with him not to indict their client.

Politico reports that ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl’s new book on Trump’s post-presidential life claims that Trump lawyers Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and John Lauro met with Smith’s team over the summer and gave them a list of reasons why charging Trump with crimes related to his efforts to illegally remain in power would be a mistake.

According to Karl, Smith sat through through the presentation without saying a word.

  • @RojoSanIchiban
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    I’m imagining him staring down the clownfucks while taking bites of his subway sandwich the way Jules looks at Brad as he empties his tasty beverage.

    • @DABDA
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      196 months ago

      Nice visual! Minor correction for accuracy though, it’s *Brett

      • @RojoSanIchiban
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        For nearly 30 years I’ve thought it was Brad because the “Check out the big brain on Br…” sounds very much like “Brad” and I clearly ignored every other instance of his name. MY LIFE IS A LIE

        • @DABDA
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          The silent pouting expression after the “I don’t remember asking you…” line was great. Samuel L. Jackson has such a distinct and biting voice. I really hope they’ve sampled and preserved it for posterity and future use (non-exploitatively of course). Even if they recast the role he’ll always be the voice of Principal Firebush to me.

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      Subway? Naw. Jack smith has standards

      I’m going to imagine a made-at-home Dagwood’s-esque beauty.

      That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

      • @RojoSanIchiban
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        It was one of the first times (if not the first) Jack Smith was shown on camera since being named Special Prosecutor and not an older press photo. He was pointedly ignoring reporters’ questions while he walked to the courthouse from the subway across the street, sandwich bag in hand.

        He no doubt has great taste, but is also very practical. Potatos would get soggy if he prepared them in the morning, maybe induction cooktop wasn’t available, and as a distance runner (or cyclist, I forget) he needed a little cardio, so down the street to the subway! 👍

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s reference to a weird news article a while back about him being seen getting subway for lunch

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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        That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

        I can just see him holding eye contact as he slams a slab of meat onto a hot pan

      • Ook the Librarian
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        Well, Jules didn’t really choose what was ‘served’.

      • @afraid_of_zombies
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        I am going with organic no added sugars peanut butter on whole wheat. His wife is concerned about the results of his last checkup and according to Jack there is only one person on earth you should be afraid of, Mrs. Smith.

        So he sits there silently eating his nutritious lunch dreaming of a nice fried egg sandwich.

  • @Treczoks
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    I’d love to see this list of “reasons” published. What do they think they are? Way above the law, or what?

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      Reason 1: He didn’t do anything!
      Reason 2: It wasn’t that bad!
      Reason 3: You’re making such a big deal about it!
      Reason 4: It wasn’t his fault!
      Reason 5: He didn’t mean it!
      Reason 6: You all deserved it!

      • @RGB3x3
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        Ah yes, the narcissist’s legal defense

        • @Nightwingdragon
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          If you’ve paid attention to the civil trial, this is the exact defense they’re using.

  • @bmcgonag
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    People really need to realize, Trump is insane. He has never heard anyone tell him he was wrong, or not good enough, or not smart enough, or it was his fault. Now as a “grown man” he believes he can do no wrong. He was buddies with North Korea and Russia because he wants to know how they maintain their power and grip over this countries.

    I’m scared to death that not enough peole are taking seriously that he could win again. I hope at least 1 felony will be set as guilty for him, and disqualify him, but then you’ve got the rest of the herd of nut-jobs that follow him right behind him.

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        It actually would be really fucked up if it could as most minorities wouldn’t be able to hold elected office, and those felonies are often extremely arbitrary ones put in place by racist jurisdictions with the explicit purpose of denying minorities their right to vote.

        The fact that you can lose respect for any of your constitutional rights as a consequence of a court proceeding should terrify everyone.

        There are better ways to deal with fascists.

          • @[email protected]
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            No, the system makes them that way by design. The system disproportionately convicts minorities with the express purpose of denying them their right to vote. They’re made felons to subjugate them.

      • @[email protected]
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        I mean technically he could become president while in jail, and maybe pardon himself if it’s for a federal offense.

  • @sunbrrnslapper
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    I mean, this just sounds like he was being polite. Who would talk through someone’s presentation?

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      Usually something like this would be a bit of a back and forth. But (supposedly) they said nothing, asked no questions, and then just said bye to them when they were done, that indicates a lot more than just being polite.

      • @afraid_of_zombies
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        I had a manager who would sit in silence during every negotiation waiting for the tension to break the other person.

        I knew that trick before the interview. That was a very awkward several minutes while we just sat looking at each other. He broke the silence and I got the job on the interview.

        Yeah he was a weird guy.

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        I think they were joking…

        Edit: I posted under the wrong comment, I meant that the commenter above was joking and the 1st comment didn’t understand the facetiousness

          • @paddirn
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            They didn’t ACTUALLY overthrow the government, so whadya say, no harm no foul, right? Ayyyyyy! (finger guns)

  • @[email protected]
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    I would, after all their begging and pleading, would hold out my hand and change it to a thumbs down, like the Romans did in the Colosseum.

    • @AngryCommieKender
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      Thumbs up for execution, thumbs down to spare the gladiators life, from what I’ve been told.

      • @Azhad
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        Thumbs down to execute, thumbs closed in the hand for mercy.

    • rurutheguru
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      First rule of indictment: Don’t bargain with defendant attorneys about indictment. Second rule of indictment: (See above)

  • WashedOver
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    I also read the story linked about the nut job that attacked Paul Pelosi as he was waiting to take out his wife Nancy. As much as I would love to think these cases are the exception, they aren’t based on the numbers alone.

    If I was deranged like this, I would be upset Mr Drink Bleach didn’t bail him and others from the Jan 6th event out of jail. Perhaps they are thinking if he returns, then he will do the right thing for their sacrifices?

    • @Wrench
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      They learn nothing. The qanon shaman did time, and was called an antifa false flag by his peers. He’s trying to run for office now, trying to get the votes of the same people who threw him under the bus the second his story was inconvenient

      • @rayyy
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        Mister shaman realizes there is money in them thar morons.

  • @killeronthecorner
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    Caged rats on a sinking ship. Do them a favour and throw the cage in the water.

    • @Orbituary
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      556 months ago

      Don’t you? If anyone doubts he has a chance, you’re not scared enough.

        • @teamevil
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          I’m fucking terrified we’re on our way to the Idiocracy 4th Reich.

          • @sock
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            the hard pill to swallow is we arent even as good as Idiocracy

            at least in Idiocracy the authorities listened to the “expert” and solved the systemic issues.

    • @baldingpudenda
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      He’s been avoiding the debates. His rallies are basically a greatest hits from 2016, even though he was president already and could have fixed those things. he’s now using dictator language to dehumanize the opposition so his thugs will be more likely to use violence. All this and he’s leading the Republican race. He’ll run from prison because the Republicans are purely for power now and clearly won’t relinquish it next time.

        • @baldingpudenda
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          They’ve been maneuvering, bribing, and putting cronies in places of power for 70 years. They learned from the Civil War that you can’t just fight openly. They used the Civil rights movement to bolster support. Obama was also used to bolster some more.

          They own the Supreme Court, the governorship, they’re cementing the house through gerrymandering, the senate favors Republicans along with the electoral college.

          The state can’t defend itself when you are the state. Sherman was right, we should have kept on burning.

    • Flying Squid
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      People asked similar questions in 2016. Right up to election day.

    • @tym
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      If the results of the trials done disqualify him, then yes this is his beer hall putsch. We’re about to get a dictator if we don’t have a blue army voting in droves.

      We should all be very afraid.

    • @shalafi
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      Any chance at all? Maybe. But the obvious thing I don’t see many comments about is that he cannot gain supporters, only lose them.

    • @dangblingus
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      Every single poll has him winning the general election in 2024.

          • morriscox
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            When I did polls over the phone I dreaded the political polls the most because they were 30 minutes long and if they didn’t get finished then I got into trouble. Generally, 10-15 minutes is when I would be asked how much longer it would take. I didn’t want to tell the (full) truth so I would say that it would be a bit longer. Sometimes I would tell the full amount. A few people would be okay with it but some chewed me out.

            The Jiffy Lube ones were only 5 minutes.