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We only have his side of the story. Personally i think he killed her and then tried to make his murder appear more noble by lying about her shitting on Muhammad and trying to convert him to christianism.
What? Are you saying a man who took a girlfriend before marriage and is committing a plethora of sin is not as religious as he is trying to make it out to be?
How the fuck is that better
It’s not. But I guess in his mind it’s better?
Pretty much any God ever, because they are all made up by assholes to begin with.
If your god is so great then let him do his own killing.
Literally an ended life because someone said their imaginary friend was better than the other person’s imaginary friend.
@thantik
& It’s the same imaginary friend.Muhammad and Jesus are actually different
The abrahamic god that they herald, Yahweh, is not.
The title of the post contains “She cursed Muhammad”. It’s not about insulting any god.
And they weren’t imaginary… so the previous commenter must have been referring to the god.
They’re both mystical fantasies of the middle east.
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The post has a reference to insulting Muhammad, not Allah. I think the commenter was mistaken in thinking that Muhammad is God (since some sects of Christianity say that Jesus is God).
There are so many messed up things with this guy.
Judge: Why didn’t you inform Emergency Services to send an ambulance?
Defendant: That was the biggest mistake.
Really? Not calling them was? Your biggest mistake wasn’t strangling her?
Also, they’d been dating for 1.5 years! She was just 15 years old and was dating a 21yo guy.
In some countries, that would be statuary rape. In Greece, it’s 15. Things that make you go ‘hmmmm’.
Lastly, she wanted him to convert to Christianity. Obviously their religions were already a problem for their relationship. If we take the testimony as factual (and I will), it seems like a pretty normal argument fed by high emotions and low maturity. Because hey, she’s basically still a kid. Yeah, it wasn’t a well handled argument, but he’s 23, had known her for (at least) 1.5 years and went for physical violence to deal with the situation.
I don’t see a problem with the verdict. He’ll probably get parole in a decade or so, we’ll see if the family gets revenge on him then.
> Muslim
>dating a girl with huge age gap
>Killed her for cursing Muhammad.
Somehow not surprising. Especially when Aisha was also 6 years old.
It doesn’t help that the article seems to be quite poorly translated/written. It references the man asking the victims family for an apology when the quote indicated he is trying to give one. Very confusing/incorrect phrasing throughout.
Fuck Muhammed he a bitch ass
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No, there is a middle ground between “he was not just human but also divine” and “he was not in any way special”. They consider him the most perfect human that has ever lived. They make no secret of this. They bless his name every time they use it. They have rules around his image and his reputation. And they make no secret of this. If you’ve interpreted “he’s not divine” as “he’s not special”, that’s your upbringing coming through, not theirs.
And no I don’t need a list of all the abhorrent things Muhammed and his followers have done.
Don’t they have a rule against idolizing people? How do they not consider their treatment of Muhammad as idolizing him?
It’s a quite literal rule - idols and idolatry are things that have actual meaning in Abrahamic religions, and in the pagan religions that Islam supplanted at Mecca. See also the icons and iconoclastic conflict in the neighbouring Orthodox Christian tradition.
“Wow he’s perfect” isn’t idolatry in the literal sense of an actual physical idol object mean to be physical manifestation of, or place of residence of, a deity.
Is that why they ban all pictures/depictions of Muhammad? To avoid stepping over that line of idolizing him?
From how I’ve understood it, yes that’s exactly why
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He’s talking about you conflating “divine” and “special”.
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You didn’t. But you seem to be under the impression that “they don’t treat him special” when they absolutely do and make no pretense that they don’t. They do deny his divinity, which is what you’re thinking of. You’re welcome for this helpful untangling of your own thoughts.
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It does not present well if the prophet of God cannot take a curse without outrage.
I believe there is a tale in the One-Thousand-and-One Nights about the Caliph and a boy who mocks him. The Caliph is distraught, and the tale addresses this very scenario, citing the Koran.
I cannot speak to religious justifications for humility and suffering fools, but when gods and kings react disproportionately to provocation, their enemies surely watch and take note.
Kind of makes Muhammad sound like a bitch, to be honest.
On my list of places to never go, prison for murdering an innocent young woman in a country where I’m a religious and ethnic minority is pretty much the top of the list
I don’t know, I think just focussing on not murdering anyone would probably be the best strategy.
It’s pretty much the foundation of my approach to staying out of prison
Good, dude can rot.
And also her dad, because he seems like a real racist piece of work.
Religion needs to be banned
That’s useless, it creates a persecution complex.
We need to expand laicism, though.
They should feel persecuted because I’m persecuting them.
Their fucked up beliefs have caused irreparable damage for millennia. They’ve attempted to purge other beliefs for millennia.
Fuck them all I’m sick of it.
Calm down Stalin
Purge beliefs, not people.
That’s laicist
Aye, if people really want to live in belief of some magical dreamworld, let them as long as they don’t force their beliefs on others and don’t hurt anyone (this includes psychological damage to their children for example).
Ideally that would be doable. However, it’s almost impossible that they don’t damage someone with their bullshit.
I’m sure that will be a smashing success and won’t cause any problems, like all the various attempts at banning alcohol.
Muhammad can go revenge himself
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Got a better source? That isnt a news website by any means.
Here is an article from a major greek newspaper(in greek), well i dont think they publish a newspaper anymore but it is a popular greek news site.