These boomers have lost their fucking marbles.
You have to have marbles first to lose them
I think most of the government isn’t boomers.
I was born during the baby boom era. I’ve concluded that “boomer” has long since lost its literal connection to “my” generation. It is now used as a metaphorical disparaging label that means “selfish and clueless because of age.”
It’s kind of like the trope of technologically clueless grandparents. At this point, the only grandparents who are technologically clueless are those with the same mindsets and experiences as all the GenX and Millenial people who are technologically clueless. And there is certainly no shortage of them.
And there is certainly no shortage of them.
The problem is that they are the majority in every generation. The majority of people don’t understand the distinction between http and https, that PMs on Facebook are readable by Facebook staff, or that there in an entire sector dedicated to collecting and selling personally identifiable information.
It’s hard to drum up support for a cause that most people can’t even understand.
Yes, good points.
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If it’s legal for women to be topless in public, why would pictures of topless females be in this law?
Our government really is dumb. Plus, it’s only going to expose the kids to sketchier and possibly illegal stuff. If big porn players step up and do verifications, there would surely be dozens of sketchy sites popping up left and right to fill the void of providing porn.
If it’s legal for women to be topless in public, why would pictures of topless females be in this law?
FWIW, I think the original Ontario law stated topless women can’t behave in a sexual manner. I don’t know if that has changed or been enforced.
law stated topless women can’t behave in a sexual manner
That law seems rather… open to interpretation.
To be fair, the bill doesn’t really say it’s only for images of a sexual manner.
But it distracts from our fucked up immigration and housing issues
Ok I don’t understand this push to block porn at a country wide level.
Who wants this and why?
I honestly don’t see why. Most to the time they tell you follow the money but I can’t think how blocking porn helps anyone but VPN providers, and old school porno mag and video publishers.
Maybe this is a fundamentalist puritanical thing? But how is it getting such wide support? Are there that many but hurt virgins in the Senate and House of Commons?
Argh so many questions and this feels so absurd.
I think they want the precident of being able to require id verification to access websites. It’s a great spying tool for the government, if they can legitimise it’s use. First they go for the porn sites to ‘protect children’. Then they’ve got a foot in the door with the infrastructure in place to expand it to other ‘objectionable’ sites, and perhaps even further.
Maybe I’m just being paranoid and it’s just puritanical BS pushed by out of touch politicians who are trying to appeal to the moral busybodies in society.
No it’s not paranoia if they are actually out to get you.
If they are out to get us it’s just baffling to me. The internet was originally designed as a communications tool to survive large parts being damaged in the event of a major disaster/attack.
It got hijacked by people first who used it to share less and scientific information and more for the lack of a better word human information. Then corporations came and wanted to extract value from it some how. So we had the Dotcom bubbles and pop-up ads.
Now I don’t have the hindsight now to succinctly explain what happened next but then Facebook became a dominant social media platform. And everyone gave them info about themselves contrary to the previous advice about never using your real name on the internet.
Now we have governments world wide actively trying to police porn a good 50 years after it existed on the internet. 20 years since it was freely and widely available as streaming video? What’s the goal trying to tax free porn somehow?
I think the genie is out of the bottle at this point.
What’s the goal trying to tax free porn somehow?
Almost like taxing someone else for linking to your website…
Bingo
The conservatives along with the NDP and Bloc are apparently the ones who want this.
I think its a step towards decentralizing the internet and requiring government backed profiles to access it by having all your online access linked to a profile that is linked to your real world information.
It’s wild because back in the day they told us don’t let anyone know your real name or where you live if you can help it. Now it’s let’s see your driver’s license to verify you before you can look at cat videos…
But how much of this is actually new trying to build a world order and how much is just ignorance in the capabilities of the technology of the members of the Senate and House of Commons
If someone is incapable of understanding or respecting the capabilities and implementation of a technology, they are unfit to govern it.
That’s why they have lobbyists…
In theory there are also panels and advisory boards for technical things. Of course, the same monied interests who pay the lobbyists also try and get people into those roles. Heck, I would wager a good chunk of the lobbying is in the form of a non-governmental policy advisory group.
Elected representatives don’t need to be experts in everything, but they should be able to get technical advice. Unfortunately this is where much of the lobbying comes in.
Anyone who can’t install nvidia drivers on Debian is unfit to govern the internet.
decentralizing the internet and requiring government backed profiles
Requiring a centralized auth is not decentralization.
You are right, I meant centralizing.
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You’re dreaming if you think there’s a technological way to enforce access restrictions. You can’t do it with “browser attestation” or “APIs”.
If they require a valid govt ID on the server side then your options are your ID or the ID of someone else.
On what server side? If 1 in 100 sites asks for your ID, then you simply use the other 99 that don’t. There are so many clones of different porn sites that don’t give a single fuck about regulations, why would they care about that law.
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Looking forward to learning what porn my MPs are watching.
No no no, only the peasants have their information exposed. Can’t have the wealthy at risk, see?
Reminds me of the (sadly defunct) twitter account which tweeted anonymous Wikipedia edits that were made from Canadian Government IP addresses. Someone should create a Mastodon bot as a spiritual successor.
Looks like the facility to do that is in the git. https://github.com/edsu/anon As well as the GC IP list https://github.com/ruebot/gccaedits-ip-address-ranges
This comment makes me want this law so bad
Better headline: “Tech-illiterate wanks suggest having to verify your identity prior to letting you wank”
Everyone wanting to look at porn needs to send a letter to their MP first, requesting permission.
It would be funny if people just sent a letter to their mp every time they accessed those sites something like:
Dear honorable insert MP name
In advance of bill S-210 I am writing to inform you of my internet usage habits what follows is a list of hyperlinks to videos I have accessed today:
- …
I hope this information helps you in determining my sexual interests to aid in your reelection campaign.
Sincerely xyz ABC of qwerty riding
And in the smallest print capable of your printer ( if you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list please consider your vote on this matter)
honestly its not as bad as the masterbation list.
The what?
Oh I hope your compliant. You know you can go blind if your not properly registered.
Anyone supporting this should be volunteering for test trials.
We’re lucky the biggest porn monopoly in the world is based in Canada (much as I loathe monopolies and think the government should break them up)
I’m fairly sure MindGeek will lobby for this not to pass. Corrupt cronyism will get us a win for once.
A broken clock is right twice a day
Porn monopoly?
Someone tell Hasbro about their next hit board game.
Anyone who wants to monitor how everyone else jerks off should automatically be required to have their Internet activity monitored, because they sound like perverts.
Anything a politician does in relation to their position should be recorded on a bodycam, same as police. You work for the public, being paid with public funds, your actions and decisions should be 100% auditable.
It’s like they are trying their hardest to have no chance of winning the next election.
How? This is universal
I was being mostly sarcastic. I realize its a non-partisan bill. But still, I don’t see how this is popular.
VPN and torrents will get you anything you want.
Websites not in the system will get you anything you want
Bro if you want some links, just ask.
Think of the children. That poor Thirteen yo boy who doesn’t have the luxury of Sears catalogs on the coffee table. Or hustler magazines on display in every corner store. He just wants the see a pair of boobies /s
Do they want a barage of global requests for porn? Because this is how you get a barage of global requests for porn.
