Note that the deer head and antler aesthetic is based on a number of depictions of w*ndigo that have gained popularity among white audiences and been heavily criticised for cultural appropriation.
“Cultural apropration” is a nothing burger championed by people who often have no ties to the culture that they claim needs their protecting. A white man speaking for indigenous american culture does not give indigenous americans more of a voice, it takes their voice away by revoking their ability to speak for themselves.
There’s nothing wrong in speaking out for other groups for as long as it actually corresponds to the current needs of people inside the group, as defined by themselves.
This is what being an ally is all about.
But yes, one should better consult people on what they ask for in the first place.
I dunno mate, seems like I’m the only one in this thread who actually has a source from a native american. @[email protected] talks a big game about respecting native americans and elevating their voices, while denying the existence of the issues they care about and talking over them. Maybe Vtyle should try listening to the people they claim to represent instead of deciding what indigenous people think for them.
You are grouping all indigenous people together by saying “denying the existence of issues they care about and talking over them” I emplore you, who is “they”? Are you implying that all native Americans hold the same beliefs? That they are the same people? I also never claimed to represent native Americans. I would never speak for a culture or peoples I don’t belong to.
No I’m not. You’re just inventing nonsense reasons to “no u” this conversation and justify racism. You’ve read the accounts from the affected communities, because I linked them. You’re just lying.
Never mind the fact that the entire point of the meme is to say that native american folkloric creatures are scary, incomprehensible, and fundamentally other, in comparison with european folkloric creatures.
“Not being racist is racist!!!” I do not understand how the asshole in this thread got people agreeing with them. It makes no sense. They had no sources, no factual backing, all they did was complain about non issues and say antiracism is racist. I don’t get it.
Let’s stop with the hero worshipping just because someone posts a lot. I saw Picard post a racist meme yesterday, heroes aren’t perfect.
Please share the link to that post.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/9943648
Note that the deer head and antler aesthetic is based on a number of depictions of w*ndigo that have gained popularity among white audiences and been heavily criticised for cultural appropriation.
“Cultural apropration” is a nothing burger championed by people who often have no ties to the culture that they claim needs their protecting. A white man speaking for indigenous american culture does not give indigenous americans more of a voice, it takes their voice away by revoking their ability to speak for themselves.
There’s nothing wrong in speaking out for other groups for as long as it actually corresponds to the current needs of people inside the group, as defined by themselves.
This is what being an ally is all about.
But yes, one should better consult people on what they ask for in the first place.
I dunno mate, seems like I’m the only one in this thread who actually has a source from a native american. @[email protected] talks a big game about respecting native americans and elevating their voices, while denying the existence of the issues they care about and talking over them. Maybe Vtyle should try listening to the people they claim to represent instead of deciding what indigenous people think for them.
You are grouping all indigenous people together by saying “denying the existence of issues they care about and talking over them” I emplore you, who is “they”? Are you implying that all native Americans hold the same beliefs? That they are the same people? I also never claimed to represent native Americans. I would never speak for a culture or peoples I don’t belong to.
No I’m not. You’re just inventing nonsense reasons to “no u” this conversation and justify racism. You’ve read the accounts from the affected communities, because I linked them. You’re just lying.
And here’s a native american person saying not to culturally appropriate the w*ndigo: https://writingwithcolor.tumblr.com/post/171102081849/no-longer-taking-questions-involving-the-wendigo
Never mind the fact that the entire point of the meme is to say that native american folkloric creatures are scary, incomprehensible, and fundamentally other, in comparison with european folkloric creatures.
This comment should be deleted too.
You know you want to.
“Not being racist is racist!!!” I do not understand how the asshole in this thread got people agreeing with them. It makes no sense. They had no sources, no factual backing, all they did was complain about non issues and say antiracism is racist. I don’t get it.