Speaking at an event about combating antisemitism, the former President and Republican nominee said he’d also ban refugees from Gaza from entering the U.S.
and at the people that try to gaslight that the Democrats are worse, for whatever reason.
No one is saying they’re worse, just that “better than trump” is still supporting a genocide, refusing refugees and cutting off valid humanitarian aid based on propaganda from the genociders and not undoing it…
if you think Trump is better for the Palestinian people.
Again, no one is saying he would be…
Just that Biden is illegally supporting a genocide and if he had an R by his name other people would demand he face consequences and the US stops supporting a genocide.
You’re literally inventing a strawman to be mad at…
Well no we are also demanding that the current admin stop and face consequences for its action. We just know that Republicans would gleefully do worse and anyone pretending that is not the case is operating with a malign agenda. Its pretty straight forward.
Well no we are also demanding that the current admin stop and face consequences for its action
Does that “we” include Harris or any Dem not named Sanders, Talib, or AOC?
We just know that Republicans would gleefully do worse and anyone pretending that is not the case is operating with a malign agenda
It’s weird I have to keep saying this:
Literally no one is saying that Trump wouldn’t be worse here…
I’m saying if you think trump is so bad that we can’t criticize Biden for breaking multiple US and international laws to support a genocide and remove aid from it’s victims…
You’re still supporting a genocide
You can say genocide is unacceptable and trump is unacceptable. Especially since Biden isn’t even the nominee anymore.
Look, fuck Netanyahu and fuck Hamas for starting all of this. It is cold and heartless to a degree yes, but there are political nuances that you clearly don’t care about. I’d rather do everything we can within the current political reality than be right like Jimmy Carter and for the Dems to basically lose all political agency for the next decade plus. Right now I am lucky enough to say that and be so caulous. I hope my family and I can still do so after the inauguration in January. I hope we don’t have our own concentration camps of immigrants in our backyards.
Hamas didn’t exist in the 1800s, they didnt start this. But I am glad you “people” finally admit you have no empathy or think of people outside yourself; I was getting tired of hearing the lie that liberals are more caring than other conservatives
They did, Palestinians have called themselves that since Roman occupation. Palestine, phalistine before it, has been a recognized name region for longer than Christianity has existed, much less the word ottoman or around 80% of modern hebrew words. Israeli education really is some of the worst in the world, right under american education.
“modern Arab”? What kind of racist ass white supremacist nonsense are you people pushing now? Palestinians the current and past population are semites, specifically a majority are genetically Jewish. Palestinian, as an ethnic supergroup is compromised of hundreds of ethnicities, all of whom have been called Palestinian longer than the concept of Israel as a nation has been kicking around white colonials heads.
Your source uses none of your words, has an entirely different point, is on a different subject, and most importantly refutes the point you thought you made.
Again, your education standards show themselves to be the worst in the modern world.
The first and foremost rule of first aid is to ensure your own safety first. Same rule applies here. Hope your righteousness doesn’t bite you in the ass, I truly do.
No one is saying they’re worse, just that “better than trump” is still supporting a genocide, refusing refugees and cutting off valid humanitarian aid based on propaganda from the genociders and not undoing it…
Again, no one is saying he would be…
Just that Biden is illegally supporting a genocide and if he had an R by his name other people would demand he face consequences and the US stops supporting a genocide.
You’re literally inventing a strawman to be mad at…
Which we all give Vance shit for…
Well no we are also demanding that the current admin stop and face consequences for its action. We just know that Republicans would gleefully do worse and anyone pretending that is not the case is operating with a malign agenda. Its pretty straight forward.
Thank you for jumping in with a bit of a different but reasonable perspective. I’m not sure why I even stepped into this cesspool.
Does that “we” include Harris or any Dem not named Sanders, Talib, or AOC?
It’s weird I have to keep saying this:
Literally no one is saying that Trump wouldn’t be worse here…
I’m saying if you think trump is so bad that we can’t criticize Biden for breaking multiple US and international laws to support a genocide and remove aid from it’s victims…
You’re still supporting a genocide
You can say genocide is unacceptable and trump is unacceptable. Especially since Biden isn’t even the nominee anymore.
Drink every comment givessomefucks has the word genocide in it
Look, fuck Netanyahu and fuck Hamas for starting all of this. It is cold and heartless to a degree yes, but there are political nuances that you clearly don’t care about. I’d rather do everything we can within the current political reality than be right like Jimmy Carter and for the Dems to basically lose all political agency for the next decade plus. Right now I am lucky enough to say that and be so caulous. I hope my family and I can still do so after the inauguration in January. I hope we don’t have our own concentration camps of immigrants in our backyards.
Hamas didn’t exist in the 1800s, they didnt start this. But I am glad you “people” finally admit you have no empathy or think of people outside yourself; I was getting tired of hearing the lie that liberals are more caring than other conservatives
No one called themselves Palestinians back in the 1800s in the Ottoman Empire either. But yeah man, you got me dead to rights. Great Job.
They did, Palestinians have called themselves that since Roman occupation. Palestine, phalistine before it, has been a recognized name region for longer than Christianity has existed, much less the word ottoman or around 80% of modern hebrew words. Israeli education really is some of the worst in the world, right under american education.
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Removed, civility.
“modern Arab”? What kind of racist ass white supremacist nonsense are you people pushing now? Palestinians the current and past population are semites, specifically a majority are genetically Jewish. Palestinian, as an ethnic supergroup is compromised of hundreds of ethnicities, all of whom have been called Palestinian longer than the concept of Israel as a nation has been kicking around white colonials heads.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/232306 Here’s a source for you. Go rave at them for being white supremacists. Or not. At this point IDGAF.
Your source uses none of your words, has an entirely different point, is on a different subject, and most importantly refutes the point you thought you made. Again, your education standards show themselves to be the worst in the modern world.
So you’re saying that because trump exists…
We can’t criticize Biden for breaking multiple US and international laws to support a genocide and removing aid from it’s victims?
You do you I guess…
But I dont have time for people who think genocide is acceptable under any circumstances
The first and foremost rule of first aid is to ensure your own safety first. Same rule applies here. Hope your righteousness doesn’t bite you in the ass, I truly do.