• @[email protected]
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    2711 hours ago

    I hear that but ‘‘witnesses’’ who don’t understand the process are bound to cry foul even when everything is running smoothly. We saw it in 2020.

    • @Carrolade
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      311 hours ago

      True. But they’re still adding evidence. We can point to things like the mail worker delivering the mail-in ballots the other day. While sure, a whole bunch of people will see that and cry foul, those people were already lost. But a normal person can watch the video that was recorded and see with their own eyes a postal worker going about their day-to-day job.

      I think that video hurt Trump’s fraud claims in the long run, despite it initially going viral as some kind of nefarious plot. They shot themselves in the foot, as they so often do.

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        I don’t think “normal” people are looking at any of the details. The big lie will be out there regardless.

        Also you should consider voter intimidation any time proven violent gangs are hanging around polls, whether they are doing so “peacefully” or not.

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        https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-laws-against-intimidation-voters-and-election-workers

        Intimidating conduct can take many forms. For example, courts have found the following conduct to constitute unlawful intimidation:

        …efforts to closely follow, monitor, or surveil voters at polling places

        and improper threats of potential criminal prosecution, arrest, or other legal action.

        • @Carrolade
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          110 hours ago

          I’m not so sure, things are easy to google these days. And yes, I did mention that unarmed and nonviolently was a lot to ask for.

          • @acosmichippo
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            but there are even nonviolent ways they can intimidate people that is against the law.

            https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-laws-against-intimidation-voters-and-election-workers

            Intimidating conduct can take many forms. For example, courts have found the following conduct to constitute unlawful intimidation:

            …efforts to closely follow, monitor, or surveil voters at polling places

            and improper threats of potential criminal prosecution, arrest, or other legal action.

            not to mention the mere presence of such a notorious group may be intimidating, it’s like an unspoken threat. I certainly would not feel 100% comfortable with them there - would you?

            • @Carrolade
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              110 hours ago

              Yeah that’s a fair point.