• hendrik
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      He got elected. So obviously he did better at making the people vote for him… And I’d say it’s quite an achievement to convince that many people to vote for a convicetd felon, who lies, doesn’t like democracy, is likely to make life worse for everyone …

    • @IndustryStandardOP
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      Not every argument can be won by pointing the finger at someone who is worse.

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          Harris did not win. Proving the lesser evil argument failed to win over voters.

          • @[email protected]
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            People didn’t choose the lesser evil, they only chose their kind of evil. Which is unquestionably the greater one.

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              Your argument of lesser evil is irrelevant. The voters have proven this.

              Fearmongering is how Fascists win over voters. Kamala was the lesser Fascist.

              • Todd Bonzalez
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                And here you are gleeful that the greater fascist won…

                I wonder if they have a word for people like you? Oh yeah, “fascist”.

              • @[email protected]
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                I don’t understand why it is irrelevant and how voters choosing greater evil proved this.

                What are you even trying to say - that there’s no such thing as lesser evil because voters chose greater evil? Or that Kamala is no lesser evil, because voters chose greater evil?

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                  Democrats do not get to run on fearmongering. They get to run on hope.

                  When the response to genocide is “Trump would be worse!” there is no hope offered. Everything in this campaign was fearmongering. And Democrats do not get to run on fearmongering to make people support their genocidal fascism.

                  Instead they should have provided actual policies to give hope. No genocide. Healthcare. Union rights. Not Liz Cheney.

                  Not “fascism but a little less than Trump.”

            • @IndustryStandardOP
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              115 days ago

              Yes Trump did a better job at fearmongering. That is what Republicans do.

          • Todd Bonzalez
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            Just so I understand, you are taking credit for Trump winning by saying that Harris would have won if people like you didn’t sit back and do nothing while fascism took over?

            I’m not sure if, as a leftist, taking credit for the upcoming downfall of America and its people is a great survival strategy. Things are about to get really bad in this country, and people are going to choose sides like their lives depend on it. Are you absolutely certain you want to be self-identifying as a person who put Trump back in the White House?

            • @IndustryStandardOP
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              115 days ago

              You do not understand.

              I am saying Harris should not have tried to be a lesser evil but a greater good.

                • @IndustryStandardOP
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                  Doing a little less genocide is bad

                  Not doing genocide is good.

                  How is this so difficult to understand?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    Because not doing genocide is not on the menu. You have a little less genocide or a lot more genocide. That’s your lot

                    If you refuse to choose because you don’t like either, you end up with the one you like the least.

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                  Enough people would have voted for her if she did. But she did not.

      • CEbbinghaus
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        Do you realize that is exactly how trump won? He didn’t play up how many palistinian would die because of his support of Israel. He won by pointing at immigrants and said “those are the problem”, that and attacking kamala’s character pointing out superfluous flaws and making derogatory statements.