• teft
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    191 month ago

    Example number 1000 why mimetic polyalloy is inferior to a changeling.

    Changelings do a little research before copying someone. Not this lazy bullshit that terminators do. Hell Miles didn’t even realize that his husband had been replaced by a changeling and they hung out for weeks.

    • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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      191 month ago

      Well…TBF the T-1000 didn’t exactly have 2 years and an expansive intelligence network to work from. And the only reason John Connor was alive to that point is he had a T-800 protecting him. In the span of a couple hours the T-1000 tracked JC to the arcade and almost turned him into swiss cheese if Model 101 didn’t show up at that exact moment.

      I’m sure many of us have seen the director’s cut, or at least the deleted scene after this conversation where the T-1000 goes outside and kills the dog because he won’t stop barking…and finds his real name on the collar.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 month ago

        I’m not fully up on Terminator lore, but aren’t they from the future? Seems like they could probably have a pretty good idea on most things just from stored data

        • Tippon
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          131 month ago

          Terminator 2 was made and set in the early 90s from what I remember. There was no stored data for most things, and if there was, it probably wouldn’t have survived the nuclear bombs that started the war with the machines

          • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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            101 month ago

            Fully agreed. This was before the ubiquity of the Internet and mass storage of data.

            Although the T-1000 could have, and probably should have, at least given the house a once over

            • @jaybone
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              21 month ago

              I’d think they were already mass storing data at that point. Just your typical person wouldn’t have access to it over the internet. You’d think a terminator could access those networks though.

              Of course I think this scene was using the dog’s name? Probably your dog’s name wasn’t in the Publisher’s Clearing House mainframe tapes, like it would later be available on Facebook.

              • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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                21 month ago

                Well they would have storage of key data points like criminal history, citizen level data, social security/tax stuff and disconnected medical data. But it’s not something a T-1000 would be able to easily plug into a phone jack and get all in 1 quick swoop.

                • @jaybone
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                  11 month ago

                  If you recall the movie War Games, for the most part that was shit you could actually do. Provided you know the right phone number and login. I mention publishers clearing house, because we still got junk mail back then, and all of those names weren’t stored in a Rolodex and manually typed into an envelope. So there were databases. But having the dog’s name, that would be hard to find. Maybe if you got real lucky, their vet would have a computer system and a modem.

                  The kid was hacking ATMs. Surely a T1000 could get access to that bank data. Which would have plenty of personal info. But again, probably no dog name.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          Major plot point was using a phone book to find people. There wasn’t much stored data back then.

          Medical records for example mostly only go back to around mid 90’s digitally.

        • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
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          11 month ago

          It’s stated in the first movie that most records were destroyed during the war.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      I feel like much of my life has been a waste because I haven’t been apart of this debate before. Mimetic Polyallow ftw because you don’t have that long lead time.