You think children with LGBTQ+ parents should be forbidden to discuss their families in class? You think transgender teenagers should be forced to tell their parents even if it opens them up to abuse and homelessness? What good does this do, and for whom?
Kids talk about their parents in school all the time. Teachers and counselors are trained to look for signs of abuse and work hand in hand with CPS. My mom was a middle school guidance counselor and did house calls all the time with CPS as well as helping kids get appointments with psychologists.
The largest population of homeless kids is LGBT kids thrown out of their homes. I have a friend who had his ribs broken at the age of 6 when his father threw him down a staircase. These are the kinds of people you are saying schools should be forced to out LGBT kids to. If kids aren’t out to their parents, not only is there probably a reason, but outing them is also a violation of their privacy and consent.
Tell me you don’t remember being a teenager without telling me you don’t remember. If you think kids shouldn’t lie to their parents, maybe you shouldn’t have yourself. Whether it was about smoking or drinking or just sneaking out to hang out with friends, I bet you lied all the time - everybody does. Now imagine if you had to hide something from the world for your own safety, and the government just said that if a teacher happens to hear that you have a boyfriend, they have to report that to your parents.
Also, you must be downing the Flavor-Aid if you think trans people are that easy to spot 100% of the time.
I have a transgender child, now adult, who told no one in the family until after high school because they didn’t know what was going on. It became increasingly clear to them and to us through their teens that something was amiss, but only came into clear focus for them relatively late. That sent them into a depression where they didn’t feel they could talk to anyone, including us. Only after a couple of crises, some therapy and treatment for the depression did they start taking steps to embrace their transition with the full support of their family. Even though they never faced any judgement from us, and have a lot of loving support, telling us was still difficult and scary for them. I can’t imagine how much harder it would be to go through all this with a judgemental or hostile family.
So I guess you think this is “completely ridiculous” and I don’t know what I’m talking about, but there is a lot teens don’t tell even the most sympathetic parents, and not necessarily because of a lack of trust but because some things need space to work through. I just get the impression you don’t have a lot of experience of parenting teenagers or, if you do, you don’t realize there’s a lot you don’t know, and that this is quite normal.
And I bet if being transgender was discussed in school, your kid could have figured out how to explain what was going on a lot faster and saved everyone a lot of pain.
This self discovery is what this bill is trying to stop. Cruelty is the point.
Would you rather children lie to their parents, or would you rather have those children be assaulted, abused, and potentially driven to suicide by those parents? Take your pick.
Bullshit, conservatives are realistic, and the majority in the USA based on the popular vote, house, senate, and Presidency. The people spoke, and they told liberals to shut the fuck up already. Read the room.
Ur missing the point. The purpose of the law is to ensure that ur kids are ur kids not the states kids. Its about government interference in ur family.
LMFAO You wouldn’t know what irony was if it ate your face.
ITs RaElLy ImPoRtAnt tHaT I InVolvE tHe StaTE wItH mY ChIldS SeXualITy So ThE StaTE iS lEsS InVolVeD wITH mY ChILD
How could you possibly still believe this with it staring you right in the face and telling you what it truly is? You people are gullible fuckin turds.
They’re people, not property. If you’re afraid of your kid growing up to be anybody other than who you think they should be, then you’re a worthless coward.
That’s literally how being a parent has worked in a lot of people’s childhoods. How are you not aware of that? People are regularly imprisoned for literally beating children to death. Plenty of others just have the children taken away from them due to the physical abuse. Why do you think protective services for children exist in the first place?
The fact that you say that and have that attitude means you’ve never experienced true hardship. True loss.
It’s written all over you. You’re practically broadcasting it to everyone the harder you try to dig in.
People who have had hard lives, truely hard lives and faced unimaginably difficult challenges and loss, gain empathy for their fellow man, not lose it.
You’re just trying to cosplay as something everyone can very clearly see you’re not.
Consider yourself lucky, and while I don’t wish undue hardship on anyone, In your case, it might give you that perspective you’re trying so hard to convince everyone around you you’ve had.
Oh cool. Do you discuss your sex life and masturbation habits with your parents? Cause, you know, parental rights. They should have a right to know as you’re still their kid.
Or do you just believe that complete control and domination of children is what we should have as a society until they reach that MAGIC age number?
You’re also welcome to read this scholarly article about how LGBT+ children face higher levels of violence from family members than cisgendered, heterosexual youth, but I doubt you will.
Okay, i am also for banning any kind of display of affection in schools.
Teachers alao should not talk about marriage or their partners, since that would introduce the “mindfuck” that is heterosexuality.
Their parents should also completely abstain from anything that could imply a sexual orientation to their kids.
It doesn’t sound shameful to me. Based on what i read in that article I totally support it.
You think children with LGBTQ+ parents should be forbidden to discuss their families in class? You think transgender teenagers should be forced to tell their parents even if it opens them up to abuse and homelessness? What good does this do, and for whom?
it isolates the child and only helps the abusers to be abusive.
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Said by someone whose parents aren’t abusive I presume.
Yeah no, welcome to the real world, there’s tons of fucked up parents out there that kids need to be protected from
Said by someone who was never a human teenager.
Everyone has lied to their parents. That’s just an unrealistic view of the world.
Or said by someone who is the abusive parent. The fact that they see nothing wrong with this law makes them sus.
Kids talk about their parents in school all the time. Teachers and counselors are trained to look for signs of abuse and work hand in hand with CPS. My mom was a middle school guidance counselor and did house calls all the time with CPS as well as helping kids get appointments with psychologists.
The largest population of homeless kids is LGBT kids thrown out of their homes. I have a friend who had his ribs broken at the age of 6 when his father threw him down a staircase. These are the kinds of people you are saying schools should be forced to out LGBT kids to. If kids aren’t out to their parents, not only is there probably a reason, but outing them is also a violation of their privacy and consent.
Tell me you don’t remember being a teenager without telling me you don’t remember. If you think kids shouldn’t lie to their parents, maybe you shouldn’t have yourself. Whether it was about smoking or drinking or just sneaking out to hang out with friends, I bet you lied all the time - everybody does. Now imagine if you had to hide something from the world for your own safety, and the government just said that if a teacher happens to hear that you have a boyfriend, they have to report that to your parents.
Also, you must be downing the Flavor-Aid if you think trans people are that easy to spot 100% of the time.
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You’re really saying if you saw her on the street you’d think it was a dude?
https://www.instagram.com/goldenchaos/p/Cydo3VmuuOn/
Get the fuck outta here.
I have a transgender child, now adult, who told no one in the family until after high school because they didn’t know what was going on. It became increasingly clear to them and to us through their teens that something was amiss, but only came into clear focus for them relatively late. That sent them into a depression where they didn’t feel they could talk to anyone, including us. Only after a couple of crises, some therapy and treatment for the depression did they start taking steps to embrace their transition with the full support of their family. Even though they never faced any judgement from us, and have a lot of loving support, telling us was still difficult and scary for them. I can’t imagine how much harder it would be to go through all this with a judgemental or hostile family.
So I guess you think this is “completely ridiculous” and I don’t know what I’m talking about, but there is a lot teens don’t tell even the most sympathetic parents, and not necessarily because of a lack of trust but because some things need space to work through. I just get the impression you don’t have a lot of experience of parenting teenagers or, if you do, you don’t realize there’s a lot you don’t know, and that this is quite normal.
And I bet if being transgender was discussed in school, your kid could have figured out how to explain what was going on a lot faster and saved everyone a lot of pain.
This self discovery is what this bill is trying to stop. Cruelty is the point.
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Would you rather children lie to their parents, or would you rather have those children be assaulted, abused, and potentially driven to suicide by those parents? Take your pick.
Fear mongering.
It’s called reality. Conservatives are hateful.
Bullshit, conservatives are realistic, and the majority in the USA based on the popular vote, house, senate, and Presidency. The people spoke, and they told liberals to shut the fuck up already. Read the room.
Ur missing the point. The purpose of the law is to ensure that ur kids are ur kids not the states kids. Its about government interference in ur family.
“no you don’t understand! People need to suffer because muh big gubment!”
-you
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What rights are you talking about here? The parent’s right to do what with their child in this situation?
‘Let me argue my point by bringing up something completely unrelated and pretending that it’s that same thing that we are arguing now’
This is you
LMFAO You wouldn’t know what irony was if it ate your face.
ITs RaElLy ImPoRtAnt tHaT I InVolvE tHe StaTE wItH mY ChIldS SeXualITy So ThE StaTE iS lEsS InVolVeD wITH mY ChILD
How could you possibly still believe this with it staring you right in the face and telling you what it truly is? You people are gullible fuckin turds.
They’re people, not property. If you’re afraid of your kid growing up to be anybody other than who you think they should be, then you’re a worthless coward.
They’re MY kids, and I’ll beat them if I WANT TO
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That’s literally how being a parent has worked in a lot of people’s childhoods. How are you not aware of that? People are regularly imprisoned for literally beating children to death. Plenty of others just have the children taken away from them due to the physical abuse. Why do you think protective services for children exist in the first place?
Cool. I bet you support abortion rights too? It’s not the government’s place to tell someone what to do with their body, right?
Absolutly. To say anything else would be double think.
That’s not at all what this is about.
Ignorant.
Said by someone who has never suffered the cruelty of others because of who they are.
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Like you would know.
The fact that you say that and have that attitude means you’ve never experienced true hardship. True loss.
It’s written all over you. You’re practically broadcasting it to everyone the harder you try to dig in.
People who have had hard lives, truely hard lives and faced unimaginably difficult challenges and loss, gain empathy for their fellow man, not lose it.
You’re just trying to cosplay as something everyone can very clearly see you’re not.
Consider yourself lucky, and while I don’t wish undue hardship on anyone, In your case, it might give you that perspective you’re trying so hard to convince everyone around you you’ve had.
Why don’t you get a helmet and Keep Yourself Safe?
From who, lol?
The fact that you have no one to fear, as opposed to queer kids with openly homophobic parents, perfectly illustrates your narrow views.
Oh cool. Do you discuss your sex life and masturbation habits with your parents? Cause, you know, parental rights. They should have a right to know as you’re still their kid.
Or do you just believe that complete control and domination of children is what we should have as a society until they reach that MAGIC age number?
That’s the dumbest shit lve ever heard. Do you really that ridiculous extremes make a point at all. You’re a fool.
Your posts are the dumbest shit I have read. Do you have a reason for being a controlling asshole or were you just born that way?
Children will get killed.
No they wont. Fear mongering.
It’s literally already happening:
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/mom-pleads-guilty-murder-8-year-old-boy-thought-be-n848741
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/nevada-father-murdered-son-being-gay-former-foster-mom-claims-n817906
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ronnie_Paris
You’re also welcome to read this scholarly article about how LGBT+ children face higher levels of violence from family members than cisgendered, heterosexual youth, but I doubt you will.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6408293/
They already are.
Ignorant.
Meh.
I see it comes down to just not caring about other people.
Truly, the pro-life party.
You support outing kids to abusive parents so they can be beaten and kicked out?
You’re a horrible person.
Could you explain what in the article you support?
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It looks like you’ve been mindfucked into not having empathy. You should really do some introspecting and find out if that’s something to be proud of.
I’d love if you were able to point out in the article where any of that is happening, and how this bill does or does not deal with it.
I won’t be holding my breath though.
Okay, i am also for banning any kind of display of affection in schools. Teachers alao should not talk about marriage or their partners, since that would introduce the “mindfuck” that is heterosexuality.
Their parents should also completely abstain from anything that could imply a sexual orientation to their kids.
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You’re the one who’s mind fucked…lol
Imagine being this much of a bigot in public
Name calling. The liberal go to move. LMAO.
I think playing the namecalling card after calling every non-heterosexual “mindfucked” is a tad weak.
So youre also against any teacher discussing or mentioning their spouse? Or how children were created? Cool!