• metaStatic
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    151 day ago

    There are very few core controls and they should absolutely be physical.

    I hate screens as much as anyone but I honestly don’t think there’s much that can’t be put behind one.

    • @[email protected]
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      611 day ago

      Climate controls need to be physical, though.
      They are safety critical when your windscreen fogs over.
      Radio, too. For emergency broadcasts.
      And obviously any driving controls, like lights, indicators, cruise control, wipers, …

      Basically, anything that was present in a car 30 years ago needs to have physical buttons.

      • Pennomi
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        121 day ago

        Disagree about radio (if it’s really that urgent to receive an emergency broadcast you can pull over for a moment), but yeah the rest seem like it’s best to have physical controls for everything else.

          • @[email protected]
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            823 hours ago

            That’s usually on the steering wheel for a while now. I do agree with more physical buttons though.

            • Pup Biru
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              1523 hours ago

              just because it is doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be regulated to be

              • @ChapulinColorado
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                823 hours ago

                Also, it tends to be easier to find the volume knob or dedicated volume keys than trying to see if the label on the steering wheel is for volume, skip tracks or cruise control. Not as important on your car, but it comes into play for rentals and/or borrowed cars.

        • @[email protected]
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          181 day ago

          That’s theoretically correct, however, when picking safety standards you should go by how most people would be expected to act, not by ideal scenarios. Is someone commuting to work going to pull over to change the media source or radio station? Probably not. So the controls should minimize how long the driver will look at the console and have their hand off the steering wheel. Media buttons on the steering wheel can seem superfluous, but it helps keep people less distracted.

      • metaStatic
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        Climate controls need to be physical, though.

        I had an 02 Peugot with automated climate controls. Shits not new. it’s one of the few cases where I will not go back to the caveman way. automated headlights are another.

        a case can be made for demister buttons but I haven’t owned a car made this century that would fog up so that’s a pull over and figure this shit out for the first time affair not a take your eyes off the road and dick around with controls physical or otherwise affair.

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          automated headlights are another.

          Automated headlights should be banned. Whenever I pull up next to someone with their lights off and talk to them, the answer is always the same “I thought they were on automatic!”, and then they fumble about madly for a minute trying to find where the switch is at.

          It takes one bump and you’re driving without lights for days. It’s even worse with DRLs since your “headlights” are always on, there is no major visual impact to the driver when their lights are off, but the safety aspects of DRLs I think outweighs the risks here.

          For the record, I’m not saying automatic headlights are useless. They’re great if you are driving in an area that has a lot of light levels variations, like tunnels, or intermittent storms. They also are nice if you are driving during dawn or dusk. But… Automatic lights should be something you manually turn on and off, not a set-it-and-forget-it behavior.

          • metaStatic
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            -101 day ago

            again that’s not something you should be dealing with doing 110 on the freeway while steering with your knees and eating cup ramen.

            • @[email protected]
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              I think my “peak American” was that time many years ago when I went driving down the I35 interstate in rural Kansas…eating a plate of chicken fettuccine alfredo.

              It’s OK. The statute of limitations has long passed.

              Although, now that I think of it, this might be my peak Italian moment, though I’m not of Italian ancestry…

              Anyway, it was delicious Fazoli’s.

              • @[email protected]
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                Absolutely not. Italians may drive like madmen, but they drive well and are focussed.

                Also why the hell would you add chicken to butter and parmigiano.

                • @ChapulinColorado
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                  122 hours ago

                  Why not? The world is in chaos anyway (e.g. the icon for taco looks like some Taco Bell creation 🌮), might as well enjoy the simple things in life.

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          We have a 2015 Toyota Highlander with automatic climate controls. Except when it’s 72° outside and 110° inside the car when I get in, I don’t want it lazily whispering 72° air at me (which it does sometimes), I want it to blow ice-fucking-cold air for several minutes so I don’t sweat my balls off waiting for the interior temp to come down. Having physical controls is quite nice for that. I can set it back to 72 or 69nice or whatever after the fact.

          Both of my cars have automatic headlights, so 95% of the time we don’t really touch those controls. Every once in a while I’ll turn them on during a storm, when the light level isn’t quite low enough to trigger the headlights.

        • @then_three_more
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          61 day ago

          Do you live somewhere not humid? My 2016 fiesta fogs up pretty badly.

          • metaStatic
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            01 day ago

            it varies, but I’ve had 90s cars at the same place look like someone painted the windows white the second I open the door so I just assumed they figured it out. might just have gotten lucky with the model of car or window treatments or something.