The landing part is the hard part, but it isn’t like Russia is any less inept than any other nation with a space program. Until SpaceX and now NASA got their new launch systems up and running, it was Russia that was getting our people to and from the ISS. The US had a pretty long span of time having to rely on basically the same launch systems that were directly competing against them during the race to the Moon. Shit is just really hard no matter how long any nation/company has been doing it. We still get plenty of pretty epic explosions from SpaceX and will see many more (especially with the BFR project). And before them we lost Challenger without it making it to space, and Colombia while coming back to earth. They did at least get to the Moon and did leave a mark of sorts. I wish there were cameras with high resolution recording all the landings and crashes from all nations that could upload after the fact for us to see. I would love to see how big the dust plumes get from all of them (especially the crashes), and see how long it takes for shit to settle again.
NASA still haven’t really got their SLS or any other launch system up and running, just SpaceX with Crew Dragon. SLS is in the pipeline but not yet certified for people - the first crewed launch is currently scheduled for Nov 2024, however that date may well slide. That leaves just SpaceX as an alternative to Russia, at least for crewed missions.
More recently the reliability of Russian rockets has been called into question. SpaceX launch far more than Russia now and with SpaceX it’s pretty much become routine. Excluding Starship, SpaceX haven’t had a launch failure since 2016. Meanwhile, Russia have their own distractions going on here on Earth.
Space is hard, but achieving orbits is on the easier end of it and should be fairly routine. Russia have experience landing on the moon in the past, however by their own admission that experience wasn’t available in the recent mission. Obviously we don’t know exactly what went wrong with Russia’s attempt, but it is a little concerning they failed at such a small hurdle.
I mean sure, there are failures all the time. But it just seems weird bringing up Russia’s (or anyone’s) successful space program when India lands on the moon.
It’s not that weird, Russia’s was the most recent attempt before this one. India landed today, Russia crashed last weekend, Japan crashed back in April, India crashed 2019. Those are all the most relevant ones to talk about in relation to this one due to timing and landing site.
Then why don’t you help feed them instead of posting in a platform through a device that very likely is using tech that came from space research operations?
Ah… this person is a complete utter Indian/Modi hater. Read their comment history. I’ve replied to them in a previous comment related to India space techs. He kept throwing arguments that I believed in a (supposedly) Indian propaganda and Modi kept his people starving backed this same reference. When I see this post I wonder if they would be here throwing the same hatred. Lo and behold, who have I found.
Edit. I’ve found their previous comment thread. Their comment began quite sound but getting ridiculous down the thread. According to them, It seemed no matter what, Indian space techs just an illusionary accomplishments where any other country can achieve (which is not true as my I put out a reply that my country can’t, and likely so for many other countries) and India shouldn’t invest in techs because their citizens are starving - which is ridiculous to me as we need to invest in knowledge to progress. Every country has to deal with countless domestic issues but that shouldn’t stop them progressing technology wise.
Just like Musk isn’t responsible for the work the engineers at SpaceX have accomplished, Modi isn’t responsible for the work the engineers in India have accomplished.
But Modi is the one that decides where funding goes…
He’s also the one that decided India is exporting rice again, despite all the children starving. So prices go up, the wealthiest make money, and even more can’t afford the remaining rice.
When the Brits exported rice during famine to make money, they were monsters…
When Modi does it…
He’s still a monster. Unless you’re a hypocrite, then it’s somehow cool and a moon rocket makes up for it
India achieving what Russia couldn’t. Great job India!
What do you mean couldn’t? They landed as well. Just faster and less controlled…
Good job India!
Russia landed on the moon 18 successful times though?
No. The Soviet Union did. With Ukrainian engineers.
The last time being nearly 50 years ago. And this time they didn’t even manage to get into orbit, landing is supposed to be the hard part.
The landing part is the hard part, but it isn’t like Russia is any less inept than any other nation with a space program. Until SpaceX and now NASA got their new launch systems up and running, it was Russia that was getting our people to and from the ISS. The US had a pretty long span of time having to rely on basically the same launch systems that were directly competing against them during the race to the Moon. Shit is just really hard no matter how long any nation/company has been doing it. We still get plenty of pretty epic explosions from SpaceX and will see many more (especially with the BFR project). And before them we lost Challenger without it making it to space, and Colombia while coming back to earth. They did at least get to the Moon and did leave a mark of sorts. I wish there were cameras with high resolution recording all the landings and crashes from all nations that could upload after the fact for us to see. I would love to see how big the dust plumes get from all of them (especially the crashes), and see how long it takes for shit to settle again.
NASA still haven’t really got their SLS or any other launch system up and running, just SpaceX with Crew Dragon. SLS is in the pipeline but not yet certified for people - the first crewed launch is currently scheduled for Nov 2024, however that date may well slide. That leaves just SpaceX as an alternative to Russia, at least for crewed missions.
More recently the reliability of Russian rockets has been called into question. SpaceX launch far more than Russia now and with SpaceX it’s pretty much become routine. Excluding Starship, SpaceX haven’t had a launch failure since 2016. Meanwhile, Russia have their own distractions going on here on Earth.
Space is hard, but achieving orbits is on the easier end of it and should be fairly routine. Russia have experience landing on the moon in the past, however by their own admission that experience wasn’t available in the recent mission. Obviously we don’t know exactly what went wrong with Russia’s attempt, but it is a little concerning they failed at such a small hurdle.
I mean sure, there are failures all the time. But it just seems weird bringing up Russia’s (or anyone’s) successful space program when India lands on the moon.
It’s not that weird, Russia’s was the most recent attempt before this one. India landed today, Russia crashed last weekend, Japan crashed back in April, India crashed 2019. Those are all the most relevant ones to talk about in relation to this one due to timing and landing site.
All the starving Indian children are going to be so happy foreigners have a slightly higher opinion of Modi now!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(23)00067-6/fulltext
What’s 20 years of starving children compared to being the 4th country to land on the moon after no one else tried for decades?
He said India achieved it, not that Modi achieved it.
Then why don’t you help feed them instead of posting in a platform through a device that very likely is using tech that came from space research operations?
Because then they don’t get to feel morally superior to everyone.
I love how there is always some dipshit lurking around here, stats at the ready, regardless of how relevant their outrage may be.
Ah… this person is a complete utter Indian/Modi hater. Read their comment history. I’ve replied to them in a previous comment related to India space techs. He kept throwing arguments that I believed in a (supposedly) Indian propaganda and Modi kept his people starving backed this same reference. When I see this post I wonder if they would be here throwing the same hatred. Lo and behold, who have I found.
Edit. I’ve found their previous comment thread. Their comment began quite sound but getting ridiculous down the thread. According to them, It seemed no matter what, Indian space techs just an illusionary accomplishments where any other country can achieve (which is not true as my I put out a reply that my country can’t, and likely so for many other countries) and India shouldn’t invest in techs because their citizens are starving - which is ridiculous to me as we need to invest in knowledge to progress. Every country has to deal with countless domestic issues but that shouldn’t stop them progressing technology wise.
He also uses alt accounts to spew the same anti-India shit. He needs to be banned
Just like Musk isn’t responsible for the work the engineers at SpaceX have accomplished, Modi isn’t responsible for the work the engineers in India have accomplished.
But Modi is the one that decides where funding goes…
He’s also the one that decided India is exporting rice again, despite all the children starving. So prices go up, the wealthiest make money, and even more can’t afford the remaining rice.
When the Brits exported rice during famine to make money, they were monsters…
When Modi does it…
He’s still a monster. Unless you’re a hypocrite, then it’s somehow cool and a moon rocket makes up for it
This isn’t about Modi pal, stfu already.