• @complacent_jerboa
    link
    558 months ago

    it’s not thousands of years of context. All this stuff dates back to, like, roughly the 1900s. Basically the British Mandatory period.

    • pelya
      link
      448 months ago

      It actually started around 11 century BC, when Samson slaughtered more than 1000 Philistines (ancient Palestinians).

      • @ChickenLadyLovesLife
        link
        English
        9
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        That land belongs to the Canaanites!

        Who I guess were ancient Canadians?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          38 months ago

          Because they’ve been fighting over that meaningless strip of land since time imemorial and will never stop until one side obliterates the other.

      • @modeler
        link
        38 months ago

        A bit earlier still

        The Egyptians defeated the Sea Peoples and forced a subgroup, the Peleset, to southern Canaan to act as a buffer state to the Hittites to the north. This displaced the locals who would go on to become the Israelites.

        The Peleset became the biblical Philistines.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          48 months ago

          What I’m hearing is it would be more efficient to go back and time and prevent this than to go back in time and kill Hitler.

      • @Weirdfish
        link
        88 months ago

        The Mongols showed up and ruined everything.

        • @CurlyMoustache
          cake
          link
          18 months ago

          Damn! Without a guitar I would still be a virgin

    • English Mobster
      link
      English
      88 months ago

      Why is it called Palestine? What happened to the Second Temple?

      • @archiotterpup
        link
        3
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        The Romans. Trajan sacked Jerusalem after a 5 month of siege to put out the Great Jewish Revolt (70CE). That’s when the Second Temple was destroyed. Trajan’s column shows Roman soldiers carting off a giant menorah in commemoration.

        Palestine is from the Latin for Philistia, the lands of another ancient Canaanite tribe.

        Shit’s old all around.

      • @Leyla
        link
        -28 months ago

        Uhhm… Maybe look into history?

      • @Leyla
        link
        -28 months ago

        Uhhm… Maybe look into history?

      • @complacent_jerboa
        link
        18 months ago

        I think it would be more useful to look at events starting from around the 1920s

        • Franzia
          link
          fedilink
          38 months ago

          Oh? I didnt even know about the 1920s. I said 1947, I mean the state of Palestine website has maps of like “map of Palestinian homes in 1948” to show how they have been pushed away by Israeli settlers. So…1920s?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

          Is this the issue that you mean? I don’t know if I’ve even hears of this stage of Palestinian statehood.

          • @complacent_jerboa
            link
            38 months ago

            This was around the period that Jewish immigration to the area picked up momentum. It’s where the whole situation really begins; the events set into motion that would, in time, lead to the civil war that eventually resulted in the Nakba, and Israeli independence.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              18 months ago

              Indeed. I’ve learnt more about the interwar period in this area since this all kicked off. Previously I’d though the Palestinian displacement was all post-WW2, but that’s just when it escalated massively and Israel’s statehood was declared.

              The British took control of the area post-WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire (Turks). Jewish immigration started in the following decade. This was already causing conflict, and there was a partition plan which the British (by my reading) were against. I think the British saw the forced displacement of people already there as something which they didn’t want to police. The plan went ahead and the British handed over control (Peace-out!). Then WW2 happened and migration soared for obvious reasons. The effect was more displacement, more enclaves, and the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, all whilst the Palestinians weren’t recognised as a nation of their own.

              A couple of brief wars with their neighbours later and Israel has grown again encircling Gaza. Fast forward through a ton of conflict to today.