Gaza might become an international protectorate after the war, the EU has said, adding that neither Palestinian group Hamas nor Israel should ever rule there again.
Israel would probably be fine with Egypt but there’s not much love left between Egyptians and Palestinians, and Egypt has its own shit to deal with in more than one way. The US is problematic for the same kind of reason: Palestinian distrust.
What could actually work is Germany, or more generally speaking a EU contingent under German command: Europe provides just over 50% of the total aid to Palestine and Palestinians know that, 20% from Arab countries, 11% from the US. (Providing aid to Palestinians is our favourite way to tell Israel’s right wing to fucking cut it out).
All that hinges on Netanyahu and his Kahanites getting ousted, though, there can’t be anything benefitting a peace process while von Papen and his fascists are in power as their power depends on conflict. Poll-wise it’s looking good.
What could actually work is Germany, or more generally speaking a EU contingent under German command
Why would Germany and the EU ever agree to this? What they get is an impossible mission in a deeply troubled area and all the blame for every ill that will ever befall it in the future.
Other countries might want to keep out of it but peace in the near east is right there at the very top of German national interest. As in: The safety of Israel is most easily achieved if you keep the IDF out of Gaza and the West Bank.
What happens when Islamic Jihad shoves rifles into the hands of 15-year olds and points them at the Germans? When the images of dead kids are posted all over the net? Will that be in the German National Interest? Or when Netanyahu slips in a couple of hundred armed settlers? Will the Germans evict those Jews by force? Will that event be in the German National Interest?
If everyone in Israel and Palestine could be relied upon to act rationally and in good faith, such a mission could be a tremendous success, I agree. But if everyone in Israel and Palestine could be relied upon to act rationally and in good faith, it wouldn’t be needed.
The question for the public at large will be “is this cleaner than the IDF doing things” and the answer is invariably yes: Even if the IDF was a troop of angels there’s a fuckton of baggage making it impossible for Gazans to see them as protectors.
Or when Netanyahu slips in a couple of hundred armed settlers?
None of this will happen with Netanyahu and his fascists still in power. I believe that’s the third time I’m saying that now.
Plenty of Israelis went into Gaza all the time without any issues, btw. Figures that Palestinians can tell Smolanim and Kahanites apart.
Will the Germans evict those Jews by force? Will that event be in the German National Interest?
That’s a police matter. Palestine has every right in the world to deport illegal immigrants.
European Forces occupying the middle east gives of hard imperialistic taste. Also seeing how the EU and Germany are so close to the US militarily this could just be seen again as a western power struggle where US proxies are put in place. No what is needed is a country that is non aligned to neither the west nor the middle east.
It’s like 400km from the nearest EU state to Gaza, running a ferry line from Limassol not just to Ashod but also Gaza would be trivial, the whole of the EU is a post-imperial project, tons of Palestinians live in the EU and will be more than willing to help building up the region and you want to bring in, who, the Chinese?
US proxies
Who, the Philippines? Europe isn’t a proxy of the US.
As to “neutrality”: Europe has way better relations with the Arab and Muslim world than the US, they know where we stand on issues such as settlements. You could just as well see it as a wedge to get the US out of the region. Remember when Trump proposed making Jerusalem the capital of Israel?
Israel would probably be fine with Egypt but there’s not much love left between Egyptians and Palestinians, and Egypt has its own shit to deal with in more than one way. The US is problematic for the same kind of reason: Palestinian distrust.
What could actually work is Germany, or more generally speaking a EU contingent under German command: Europe provides just over 50% of the total aid to Palestine and Palestinians know that, 20% from Arab countries, 11% from the US. (Providing aid to Palestinians is our favourite way to tell Israel’s right wing to fucking cut it out).
All that hinges on Netanyahu and his Kahanites getting ousted, though, there can’t be anything benefitting a peace process while von Papen and his fascists are in power as their power depends on conflict. Poll-wise it’s looking good.
Why would Germany and the EU ever agree to this? What they get is an impossible mission in a deeply troubled area and all the blame for every ill that will ever befall it in the future.
Other countries might want to keep out of it but peace in the near east is right there at the very top of German national interest. As in: The safety of Israel is most easily achieved if you keep the IDF out of Gaza and the West Bank.
What happens when Islamic Jihad shoves rifles into the hands of 15-year olds and points them at the Germans? When the images of dead kids are posted all over the net? Will that be in the German National Interest? Or when Netanyahu slips in a couple of hundred armed settlers? Will the Germans evict those Jews by force? Will that event be in the German National Interest?
If everyone in Israel and Palestine could be relied upon to act rationally and in good faith, such a mission could be a tremendous success, I agree. But if everyone in Israel and Palestine could be relied upon to act rationally and in good faith, it wouldn’t be needed.
The last time that kind of thing happened it looked like this. tl;dr: It’s better to come clean proactively because ultimately the Bundeswehr leaks like a sieve in these kinds of matters, which is a good thing.
The question for the public at large will be “is this cleaner than the IDF doing things” and the answer is invariably yes: Even if the IDF was a troop of angels there’s a fuckton of baggage making it impossible for Gazans to see them as protectors.
None of this will happen with Netanyahu and his fascists still in power. I believe that’s the third time I’m saying that now.
Plenty of Israelis went into Gaza all the time without any issues, btw. Figures that Palestinians can tell Smolanim and Kahanites apart.
That’s a police matter. Palestine has every right in the world to deport illegal immigrants.
European Forces occupying the middle east gives of hard imperialistic taste. Also seeing how the EU and Germany are so close to the US militarily this could just be seen again as a western power struggle where US proxies are put in place. No what is needed is a country that is non aligned to neither the west nor the middle east.
It’s like 400km from the nearest EU state to Gaza, running a ferry line from Limassol not just to Ashod but also Gaza would be trivial, the whole of the EU is a post-imperial project, tons of Palestinians live in the EU and will be more than willing to help building up the region and you want to bring in, who, the Chinese?
Who, the Philippines? Europe isn’t a proxy of the US.
As to “neutrality”: Europe has way better relations with the Arab and Muslim world than the US, they know where we stand on issues such as settlements. You could just as well see it as a wedge to get the US out of the region. Remember when Trump proposed making Jerusalem the capital of Israel?
German and Jews , again? Noooo