• @FuryMaker
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      1111 year ago

      Until they ban encryption…

        • TheMurphy
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          571 year ago

          Yes, but it failed the latest vote.

          Not saying someone won’t try again.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 year ago

          Gotta keep children “safe”… In reality that just means making it easier to watch over the adults taking care of said children :P Lol. Begone Privacy!!

      • Johanno
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        221 year ago

        Well the parties in question are trying this for almost a decade. Mostly the “conservative” party from Germany wants total surveillance. In my eyes they are more right than Conservative

        • @[email protected]
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          141 year ago

          Germany is one of the countries against the current chat surveillance proposal, so at least we have that going for us (which is nice)

          • lad
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            21 year ago

            I’m not sure what is chat surveillance protocol but whatever would be the result any benifits will probably only apply to EU citizens. I recently heard of how Russia’s biggest XMPP server was MitM’ed, it was hosted in Hetzner

            It feels like everyone wants to eavesdrop on everyone else, preferably, or at least on everyone who’s not proteted by the local law. Still the US is a worse case of the spying on everything alive, I guess

        • @uis
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          41 year ago

          So, Stasi party?

        • @[email protected]
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          The same people that want VDS, despite multiple consecutive judgments up to EUGH level against it?

          • Johanno
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            111 year ago

            Politics is complicated. The CDU is trying to enable spying on citizens for years. Which doesn’t mean people in the EU from Germany must share this idea.

      • Chaotic Entropy
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        41 year ago

        Lots of stupid stuff gets proposed by members too, but generally it does not pass or gets vetoed by someone.

      • @topinambour_rex
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        31 year ago

        I thought it was tanked after the real sponsors was found out

        • lad
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          11 year ago

          Who the real sponsor was? Maybe I can read the whole story somewhere?

      • @Chreutz
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        21 year ago

        Not necessarily the same people that advocate for the different ideas.

      • @uis
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        11 year ago

        Until any country ban encryption. Looking at you, USA.

        • @cley_faye
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          21 year ago

          Not if encrypted traffic with no state-sanctioned backdoor is forbidden.

    • qyron
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      231 year ago

      Like anything else, some times right, some times wrong.

      This is a great “right” moment.

      I dread the next “wrong” one.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Just saying “sometimes right, sometimes wrong” is such an oversimplification that it’s meaningless.

        Yes, almost all real world systems have variable outcomes, that doesn’t mean that are some aren’t better than others or on average produce better outcomes or ones that drive us in the right direction.

        I.e. a system of strong regulators with clear and strong checks and balances (courts and parliament itself), is a far better system than one where corporations are just allowed to operate freely and implement whatever policies they want the instant they have the market power to do so.

        • qyron
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          11 year ago

          My statement was not a critique but just an atempt to make a light remark.

          I am fully aware the other option would be living in three ring circus, like the UK is turning into.

          Lighten up. Smile.