• @FuryMaker
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        11110 months ago

        Until they ban encryption…

          • TheMurphy
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            5710 months ago

            Yes, but it failed the latest vote.

            Not saying someone won’t try again.

          • @[email protected]
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            610 months ago

            Gotta keep children “safe”… In reality that just means making it easier to watch over the adults taking care of said children :P Lol. Begone Privacy!!

        • Johanno
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          2210 months ago

          Well the parties in question are trying this for almost a decade. Mostly the “conservative” party from Germany wants total surveillance. In my eyes they are more right than Conservative

          • @[email protected]
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            1410 months ago

            Germany is one of the countries against the current chat surveillance proposal, so at least we have that going for us (which is nice)

            • lad
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              210 months ago

              I’m not sure what is chat surveillance protocol but whatever would be the result any benifits will probably only apply to EU citizens. I recently heard of how Russia’s biggest XMPP server was MitM’ed, it was hosted in Hetzner

              It feels like everyone wants to eavesdrop on everyone else, preferably, or at least on everyone who’s not proteted by the local law. Still the US is a worse case of the spying on everything alive, I guess

          • @uis
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            410 months ago

            So, Stasi party?

          • @[email protected]
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            The same people that want VDS, despite multiple consecutive judgments up to EUGH level against it?

            • Johanno
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              1110 months ago

              Politics is complicated. The CDU is trying to enable spying on citizens for years. Which doesn’t mean people in the EU from Germany must share this idea.

        • Chaotic Entropy
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          410 months ago

          Lots of stupid stuff gets proposed by members too, but generally it does not pass or gets vetoed by someone.

        • @topinambour_rex
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          310 months ago

          I thought it was tanked after the real sponsors was found out

          • lad
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            110 months ago

            Who the real sponsor was? Maybe I can read the whole story somewhere?

        • @Chreutz
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          210 months ago

          Not necessarily the same people that advocate for the different ideas.

        • @uis
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          110 months ago

          Until any country ban encryption. Looking at you, USA.

          • @cley_faye
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            210 months ago

            Not if encrypted traffic with no state-sanctioned backdoor is forbidden.

      • qyron
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        2310 months ago

        Like anything else, some times right, some times wrong.

        This is a great “right” moment.

        I dread the next “wrong” one.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 months ago

          Just saying “sometimes right, sometimes wrong” is such an oversimplification that it’s meaningless.

          Yes, almost all real world systems have variable outcomes, that doesn’t mean that are some aren’t better than others or on average produce better outcomes or ones that drive us in the right direction.

          I.e. a system of strong regulators with clear and strong checks and balances (courts and parliament itself), is a far better system than one where corporations are just allowed to operate freely and implement whatever policies they want the instant they have the market power to do so.

          • qyron
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            110 months ago

            My statement was not a critique but just an atempt to make a light remark.

            I am fully aware the other option would be living in three ring circus, like the UK is turning into.

            Lighten up. Smile.

    • @tacosplease
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      1410 months ago

      There is an old video of people larping in a public park. One guy is pulling bean bags out of a little pouch on his side and throwing them at the person he is battling. With each throw he screams “lightning bolt!!!”. Your username reads like three of his lightning bolt attacks.