We’ll give the upgrade new try tomorrow. I’ve had some good input from admins of other instances, which are also gonna help troubleshoot during/after the upgrade.

Also there are newer RC versions with fixed issues.

Be aware that might we need to rollback again, posts posted between the upgrade and the rollback will be lost.

We see a huge rise in new user signups (duh… it’s July 1st) which also stresses the server. Let’s hope the improvements in 0.18.1 will also help with that.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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    671 year ago

    Is it wise to do a big deployment on the day when you may receive a massive influx of new users from Reddit? The API changes take affect on the 1st.

    • @TeaHands
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      601 year ago

      It’s a bit of a lose lose situation tbh because if we don’t upgrade then the first experience those new people are gonna have of Lemmy is an unusable All feed and a broken Jerboa.

      My other account is on lemm.ee and the admin there contributes a lot of fixes to the software (plus has been working with Ruud to figure out our federation issues). He upgraded us a couple days ago and it’s been amazingly stable given that it was only a day after the rc1 disaster.

      Ultimately I trust that he and Ruud know what they’re doing, but sometimes with an untestable situation like the size of .world you just have to pull the trigger and hope it works.

      • SpaceBar
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        71 year ago

        Liftoff is working great. Jerboa should be held off on for now because it can’t handle different server versions. Different server versions WILL always be an issue in a federated environment.

        • @TeaHands
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          Yeah Liftoff is my fave too but it has the opposite problem and doesn’t work with instances that are on a too-new version of Lemmy 😅

          Update: FIXED!

        • MrNemobody
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          11 year ago

          It’s funny because a Jerboa fork posted a few days ago in their community can handle different versions like a charm. The oficial app should make that a priority.

    • @cley_faye
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      Wise ? No. Useful ? Maybe. If the improvement can help with the load and the general experience, it’s a good idea.

      And, hm, the “site is down sometimes” experience would not be that foreign to reddit user in the first place :D

        • MentalEdge
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          61 year ago

          And it only goes down one instance or two at a time. It’s not all or nothing.

        • @misterbassman
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          51 year ago

          This isn’t the case, the apps have been switched over to free API keys with a limit of 100 requests per minute. This is why they all switched off at the same time. The app owners would have to generate new API keys to access the paid plan.

    • 𝕭𝖚𝖑𝖚 𝕺𝖓𝖙𝖆
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      1 year ago

      Probably not, but surprisingly some 3P apps still work. I can confirm that Joey for Reddit and Infinity for Reddit are still able to access reddit. Seems like they don’t pull the plug in one go? Or cherry picking the most demanding apps first?

      For context, it’s July 1st 16:27 p.m., GMT+9 where I am.

      There might be less users influx than expected, though we’ll see in the next few hours or days.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        31 year ago

        All of the apps will work until the devs pull the plug. Maybe those devs have decided to try to eat the cost and offset with subscriptions or something. I know the Apollo dev said it would cost him twenty million dollars per month to pay the API fees, so hopefully the devs of those other apps don’t go bankrupt overnight.

        • 𝕭𝖚𝖑𝖚 𝕺𝖓𝖙𝖆
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          I don’t think so, in Apollo’s last update, Christian said

          Looks like Reddit pulled the plug a little early. Apollo started crashing, but I just manually revoked my token and it looks like it fixes the crashing, but no more Reddit access haha.

          that makes me think it’s on reddit side to pull the plug, not devs. Also each client seems to give different error code, Sync for example give out Error 401, while other client (forgot which one) have Error 429 instead.

          • @SirQuackTheDuck
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            51 year ago

            I think Sync got it’s keys nuked. It started showing “You’re being rate limited” messages at midnight (CEST) but it switched to 401 this morning.

        • @zeppo
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          11 year ago

          He said 20 million a year, not a month.

    • @HolyDriver
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      51 year ago

      Well website crashing all the time and jerboa crash loops. Woop, at least I’ve found a working alternative client now