• @takeda
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    5610 months ago

    From what I understand the thing isn’t see through and the eyes are actually projected outside. Can somebody explain why they had to add tech to do it?

    • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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      5210 months ago

      Because there are screens in the way? The choice was to either not have the viewer’s eyes be visible, or use a screen to display eyes (not even real eyes, you can supposedly have cat eyes for an example). Considering the device is meant to be AR (augmented reality) and not VR, it kinda makes sense to show the user’s eyes since they’re still “connected” to the outside world. Otherwise you’d have a bunch of blank visors walking around and then people can’t tell if you’re looking at them or your furry waifu.

    • @qisope
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      4410 months ago

      You actually remove your eyes before inserting the optical couplers into your sockets. You put your eyes in the storage compartment on the front giving the appearance that you’re looking out through the device.

    • Aatube
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      3510 months ago

      Achieving realistic, fast camera passthrough on both sides is harder than you think

      • @takeda
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        1110 months ago

        Yes, that’s my point. Why? Why make it extra more complicated and more expensive for no good benefit?

        • @bandwidthcrisis
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          910 months ago

          Heavier, too. It’s about as heavy as the competitors despite having a separate battery.

          It’s not necessary to have the external screen.

          The Quest has passthrough cameras to allow you to see the world with stuff displayed over it too, but Apple has decided that simulating eye contact is important.

          It’s Apple’s unique selling point here, but they’d have what sounds like a high-quality headset without it.

        • @[email protected]
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          510 months ago

          To allow eye contact for social interactions. If you want ubiquitous AR in real life that is what you need. This is an attempt to achieve this with current technology and it “almost” works / near miss / fails spectacularly.

        • Aatube
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          For no good benefit? Try comparing the display to a HoloLens 2. There’s no current display technology that’s cheaper and allows you to see through while projecting the light at the same intensity. You can search it up.

          • Krafty Kactus
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            1110 months ago

            I think they’re asking why eyes need to be projected on the outside.

            • @saltesc
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              410 months ago

              Or anything for that matter.

              All I’d want is “Go away. Gaming.” But a Post-It would do just fine. Hell, I’d prefer googly eyes than my own projected, that’d be way cooler and more useful.

              • Krafty Kactus
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                610 months ago

                I accomplished everything I need by taping a piece of paper with sharpie eyes on my Quest 2 and it cost me $0 to do so!

            • Aatube
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              310 months ago

              I’ll point to someone down this thread about eye contact in that case. It’s not like it costed much though, reviewers have noted that iSight’s display quality is quite horrible and it seems like all this features added was a small screen

      • @AnUnusualRelic
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        410 months ago

        That’s why we’ve been stuck with windows for centuries.

        • Aatube
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          210 months ago

          I mean, if the price tag isn’t going to dissuade you…

      • @takeda
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        610 months ago

        They have Tesla truck success in that, then.

    • xxd
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      I think this is kind of a temporary workaround. In Apples ideal world, the Vision Pro would actually be transparent and you could see the users eyes for real, but the tech isn’t ready to project what apple is doing on glasses. So they settled for a VR headset and put eyes on the outside. Eventually in however many years it takes, they will actually use glasses and won’t have to do the screen on the outside. They must believe, that being able to see Vision Pro users eyes is integral to the product, or at least important to the product being accepted by everyone.

    • @[email protected]
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      1610 months ago

      What do you mean? They added the outside screen to a vr headset to try to make it more acceptable to wear around others.

    • @[email protected]
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      610 months ago

      Imagine you’re sitting in restaurant waiting for the waiter while doing some work on your Vision Pro. The waiter shows up and says ‘sir…’. You look at him and… there were two options:

      • it’s just a black screen so it’s not clear if you’re actually looking at him. Are you paying attention? Of are you still ‘inside’ and can’t hear/see anyone

      • you have this fake eyes indicating that you’re actually looking at him

      It’s a really stupid “solution” to a huge problem all VR/AR has The actual solution? Don’t buy it.

    • @SPRUNT
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      310 months ago

      So they can sell you custom eyes like cats and aliens and shit.