• @SchmidtGenetics
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    How can you be non-violent and not peaceful at the same time…? lmfao. They mean the exact same thing.

    • @BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider
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      Hmm I see what the dictionaries are saying but (using an example from above) I think argument exists that:

      If me and my fellow protestors block a road, we are being non-violent, but we are not being peaceful.

      But it’s Friday and no time for argument!

      • @SchmidtGenetics
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        What’s not peaceful about blocking a road?

        The argument falls apart when you ask for the difference lol.

        • Cethin
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          Peaceful: freedom from disturbance; tranquility.

          It is a disturbance to the system, and it isn’t tranquil. They are not synonyms. Non-violent means you aren’t hurting anyone, peaceful means you aren’t disturbing anything. You can’t be violent and peaceful but you can be non-violent and non-peaceful. Peace is sufficient but not necessary for non-violence.

          • @SchmidtGenetics
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            10 months ago

            Literally the next definition after that one….

            not involving war or violence.

            SYNONYMS…

            Peaceful literally means non-violent…. Literally defines the bloody term lmfao.

              • @SchmidtGenetics
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                110 months ago

                They are both, one is defined by other, AND they are synonyms.

                Isn’t language fucked up?

            • @[email protected]
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              One definition of peaceful is synonymous, and one isn’t. This is exactly why language has so many synonyms, each one is sliiiightly different. Choosing one intentionally instead of another is important.

              In this instance, “peace” is being defined (not directly, but through context) as status quo, going about your day unhindered. “Violence” is being defined as causing direct physical harm to a person, and possibly property depending on who you ask.

              With these definitions laid out, it’s easy enough to see a situation that is not violent (no one got hurt at all) and also not peaceful (some people’s days were interrupted) - one person mentioned blocking a road. This is a FANTASTIC example of non-peaceful non-violent protest. No one likes a pedant.

              • @SchmidtGenetics
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                10 months ago

                No one likes a pedant.

                Goes on a bloviated pedantic rant…

                Yep, just like the people trying to say blocking a road isn’t peaceful. They are trying to pedantically choose a definition to make a point. Blocking a road is absolutely peaceful, trying to explain it any other way would be to be pendantic. Lmfao.

        • @BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider
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          010 months ago

          I see a lot of other people have responded with examples and argument.

          So I’ll disagree and say the argument falls apart when I don’t argue. (Cause it’s Friday. You ain’t got no job. You ain’t got shit to do. I’m gonna get you high today.)

      • @SchmidtGenetics
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        Peaceful and non-violent mean the exact same thing…

        • @Bytemeister
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          310 months ago

          Skydiving isn’t peaceful, but it certainly isn’t violent.

            • @Bytemeister
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              310 months ago

              I’d go with the wind, noise, speed, and imminent possiblity of death.

              • @SchmidtGenetics
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                wind, noise, speed.

                So going for a drive wouldn’t be peaceful either…?

                imminent possiblity of death.

                So… driving again? Or riding a motor bike? Not peaceful…? Strange perspective to have…

                Strange example to try and use lol.

                • @Bytemeister
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                  210 months ago

                  Go ahead, take a nice bath, read a book, or do some origami while skydiving, or driving at 200mph with the top down.

                  Strange example to try and use lol.

                  You know what is peaceful? Take a hike.

                  • @SchmidtGenetics
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                    Getting chased by bears is peaceful…? Getting attacked by wasps is peaceful…?

                    Anything can be twisted one way or the other dude lol.

          • @SchmidtGenetics
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            110 months ago

            not involving war or violence. “there were no violent incidents reported and it was a peaceful protest”

            Peaceful literally means non-violent.

            If you are being non-violent by definition you are also being peaceful….

      • @SchmidtGenetics
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        Peaceful and non-violent mean the exact same thing…