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    Romulans didn’t need to be taught. They were always technological equals (possibly superiors if you count cloaking). Yet instead of making amends with an equal, Vulcans chose to embrace the neophyte humans and grow them to technological equality instead of embracing their brother and sister Romulans.

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        Yes, because once again, it’s far easier to teach

        You’re doubling down on the “teaching” bit. I’m not seeing a “teaching” angle that makes any difference here. What is it that you think Vulcans taught humans than they wanted to teach Romulans?

        By saying, “I don’t get why they cannot be friends.” you’re literally ignoring their entire reason for being written in to the show as opposition to Vulkan.

        I’m not saying that. I’m saying it could be the perspective of the Romulans. The Romulans are less driven by logic and rationale than by their emotions and passions. Meaning, they’d make this assessment overriding logic and instead embracing emotion, envy and anger in this case.

        Neither of them have the “correct” answer. Pure logic doesn’t work out, and pure emotion doesn’t, either. The entire point is that these “advanced” species still have fundamental social flaws and still conflict over silly things.

        Absolutely, and humans are no exception to these conflicts. In the area of this conflict of thought process Humans, Vulcans, and Romulans are equal. There is no position that all 3 agree on 100% with each other.

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      The technology is a side-effect. The thing the Vulcans want to teach is their philosophy.

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          Didn’t it? Not that humans became straight up Vulcans, but Vulcans did want to get the benefits of humanity’s drive without the parts where we nuke each other. Most Vulcans in the 24th century would probably consider this plan a success.

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            Humanity had already made it through its nuclear wars. So what Vulcan philosophy did humanity embrace through this “teaching”?

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              That’s a very good question. I’m not sure we can discern a specific answer from canon. Rather, we infer it based on Vulcan intentions in the 22nd century and the end results in the 24th.

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                The canon events of Enterprise seems to suggest very little went the way the Vulcans intended for humanity. At the beginning of the series, it was the Vulcans in the leadership role over humanity, while by the end of the series, it was humanity in the leadership role with the creation of starfleet.