WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

  • @frostmore
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    -38 months ago

    sounds to me you are a hamas supporter that supports genocide and the oct 7th attack didn’t happen kinda people.

    • @Keeponstalin
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      28 months ago

      Nice strawman. You’re literally supporting genocide and apartheid.

      • @frostmore
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        -38 months ago

        as opposed to letting hamas commit genocide per their charter??

        • @Keeponstalin
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          Israel has had a permanent occupation of the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 1967, maintaining an apartheid state through direct and indirect violence.

          Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation.

          What Is Hamas? - Council on Foreign Relations

          What Does Hamas Actually Want? - NY Mag

          Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

          Hamas Election - Snopes

          Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter

          The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. The 2017 Revised charter accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter

          • @frostmore
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            -38 months ago

            you are aware,despite their charter saying what is it they represent and do,the reality is they do what they have always wanted,genocide,from the river to the sea,even that statement remains in their 2017 revised charter.

            i had to go read through your links,while some does provide insights to the conflict, i get the nagging feeling here you are trying to villify israel while painting hamas as a victim of circumstances. this is a typical propaganda tactic employed by…hamas and their supporters (surprising,i know).

            if you find israel’s punishment of innocent palestians for hama’s actions indiscriminate,maybe trying calling out hamas for their indiscriminate terror attacks on israel.

            an eye for an eye makes the world go blind,israel isn’t the good guys here and neither is hamas.

            • @Keeponstalin
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              The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state. You’re thinking of the Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966.

              Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.

              The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948

              Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928

              Arab Higher Committee advocating for Unified State 1937

              Arab League advocating for Unified Binational State 1948

              Partition and later the Peace Process, like the Oslo Accords, have been wielded by Israel to annex and divide as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.

              Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

              All members of Hamas and other militant groups who have committed war crimes need to be tried on an international court, the same as all the Israeli officials that have. Palestinians need liberation and to have democratically elected representatives.

              • @frostmore
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                -28 months ago

                we have an consensus,those who are responsible for the war crime needs to be tried and palestinians have a right to exist as israel.

                what i can see however,hamas is still hell bent on genocide and have publicity announced they will repeat the Oct 7th attacks until israel is no more,a stark contrast to their revised charter.

                you can defend hamas all you want,you can claim they want peace but what their actions says,is a lot louder than what their charter does.

                • @Keeponstalin
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                  Israel is an Apartheid State. Palestinians have lived under the military control of Israel for generations, enforced with daily violence both direct and indirect. For People living under apartheid, liberation is the end of that apartheid state. That means coexistence, you’re the one thinking that means genocide.

                  What does liberation look like to Hamas?

                  For Hamas, and for the Palestinians, it can be either a two-state solution or a one-state solution. If you ask this question to a Hamas leader, he would say, “I don’t have the answer, because I’m not the one who decides. I’m not going to talk about what the Palestinians will want in the future. We’re just dealing with the national liberation struggle at the moment.”

                  So there’s not necessarily a clearly defined goal. It’s about getting to a better position day by day.

                  Of course. You know why? Because on the Israeli side, there is no clear position. Sometimes they talk about achieving an agreement, but they don’t know what this agreement would look like. Most of the time they say that they don’t want the Palestinians to have a state. There is no clear vision.

                  • @frostmore
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                    -18 months ago

                    don’t white wash hamas atrocities as if they are justified or faultless.

                    hamas is just as guilty as the hardline israelis,none of them are the heroes they themselves believed to be.you certainly aren’t changing my mind concerning the terrorists that is hamas,no matter how hard you try to paint hamas as the anti-hero.

                    hamas should be wiped out,the sooner the better so that palestinians can move forward,else this apartheid will never end.