• @Aux
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    -32 months ago

    But… Grass IS native?

    • @grue
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      192 months ago

      Not unless you’re European. Bluegrass (despite having a species named after Kentucky), fescue, bermudagrass (which is an invasive species in Bermuda, BTW), etc. all come from Europe.

      • @Mirshe
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        172 months ago

        Kentucky was named the Bluegrass State because it was so invasive that when settlers came into the area, they found the whole state carpeted in it.

        • @AngryCommieKender
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          72 months ago

          Ironically they’ve just about killed it all. You’re more likely to find bluegrass in WV or PA than KY these days.

      • @Aux
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        82 months ago

        I’m European. Grass is everywhere and it just grows on its own.

        • @whoreticulture
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          112 months ago

          There are different species of grass. Many, many different species. And there are non-native grasses in Europe.

        • @grue
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          62 months ago

          ಠ_ಠ

          Alright, you’ve gotten away with it this time—but you’re on thin ice!

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        So there is no grass in natural environments in America? Then what grows on the ground there?

        • @[email protected]
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          92 months ago

          There are plenty of native grasses that exist, but they are largely overtaken by invasives.

          • @grue
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            They’re also not very suitable for manicured lawns (as opposed to meadows or praries), which is why we imported the European grasses in the first place.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 months ago

              It depends on the variety of grass. There are some low growing ones that are well suited for lawns. The main argument for the European ones is that they take hold and spread much more readily, because they are invasive.

        • @grue
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          22 months ago

          So there is no grass in natural environments in America?

          Not turf grass that can survive being mowed to 2" high, no. All our native North American grasses either grow in clumps (e.g. crabgrass) or need to be more than a foot tall.

          Also, the natural environment in the eastern half of the US (where most of the population lives) is pretty much 100% forest.

          • @fireweed
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            42 months ago

            There are native grasses that can be kept as maintained lawns, such as blue grama (although the recommendation is to cut it a little taller, 3-4"). It’s not going to be emerald green like Kentucky blue, however if you live in a dry area with watering restrictions your lawn will be the greenest on the block for sure!

            • @grue
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              1. That entire page makes no mention of blue grama being resistant to foot traffic, which is half the point of a lawn and therefore an important requirement for turf grass. The omission (in combination with it being mentioned as slow-growing) makes me suspect the worst.

              2. It mentions that you’re supposed to be careful not to over water it, but also that you need to water it more often in order for it to form a uniform turf instead of growing in clumps. Sounds kinda fiddly to me.

        • @xkforce
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    • @whoreticulture
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      142 months ago

      There are native grasses, obviously, but I suspect this meme is talking about extremely invasive annual grasses.

    • @[email protected]
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      Grass is a type of plant. Bamboo is a grass, you wouldn’t say it’s native to the US or to Europe

      • @Aux
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        -122 months ago

        But grass IS native! That’s the point. Be it bamboo or whatever.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 months ago

          That’s not how it works. Grass isn’t just one thing. It’s a general term for a lot of different plants that may or may not be native.

          • @Aux
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            -82 months ago

            Do you understand the English language?

        • @whoreticulture
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          52 months ago

          No, bamboo would not be native to Europe. That’s like saying “There are rats in Europe. Therefore rodents are native to Europe. Therefore Capybaras are native to Europe”.

            • @whoreticulture
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              42 months ago

              Yes that’s my point. And bamboo isn’t native to Europe either.

          • @Aux
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            -42 months ago

            Do you understand the English language?

            • @MetaCubed
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              32 months ago

              I’m getting the feeling that you dont.

              Almost everywhere on earth has a species of grass that is native to it.

              The species of grass typically used for North American lawns, isnt native to North America.

              • @Aux
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                -32 months ago

                Yeah, go back to school.

                • @MetaCubed
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                  Sure. You first.

                  "Poa pratensis commonly known as Kentucky bluegrass (…) [is a] species of grass native to practically all of Europe, North Asia and the mountains of Algeria and Morocco. It is a common and incredibly popular lawn grass in North America (…) despite the fact that it is not native to North America. (…)When found on native grasslands in Canada, for example, it is considered an unwelcome exotic plant, and is indicative of a disturbed and degraded landscape."

                  Edit: See also - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8074375/