lol anyone who calls him out for the fact he is part of funding this keeps getting downvoted to oblivion. lemmy is the /r/conservative of the liberal world. Just another echo chamber that lashes out when you question their god.
And, yes…im still voting for him because obviously Trump will be a million times worse, especially in this particular situation.
I think that some people come out and are critical, but then say they aren’t going to vote for him, or push something just a bit further. Tone also makes a difference.
There’s two options in November, one is worse for Palestine than the other.
The only downvoted comments I’m seeing here are on your posts complaining about downvotes. The top comment is calling out Biden and 3-to-1 upvoted. Vote Blue occasionally shows up early in a random post and sets the tone, but most Gaza posts are very much favoring antiwar/progressive sentiment.
Yeah, from what I’ve seen the downvotes on anti-war comments are mostly when it looks like it could be one of those “I’ll never vote for Biden because of it” people based on the context of the post/comment chain, even if that’s not explicitly said. Basically you have to explicitly say “But still, fuck Trump” for yo protect from the downvotes lol
Yeah, this is why I downvote posts critical of Biden with no mention of Trump. November is a choice between two options.
Biden, a squishy liberal who REALLY wants access to the Korporate Kampaign Kash, who is firmly under the thumb of AIPAC, and who views this complicated 21st Century world with a worldview shaped and fixed in the 20th Century.
Trump, who will do everything Biden wants to do, gleefully, in your face, combined with direct assaults on gays, transgendered people, minorities, environmentalists, and everyone else on the Left, a complete rework of the US’s system of government, and very likely the replacement of the current standard with a right-wing dictatorship.
I know, I know. “But jhymesba, there’s Jill Stein and Robert Kennedy!”
Here’s a simple fact about how our country works. Every vote for Stein or Kennedy is a vote against Biden, and though Stein and Biden are on the left side of the spectrum, we don’t get to add their votes up during the election. If 100 people vote, and 51 vote for candidates on the Left, and 49 vote for candidates on the right, that doesn’t mean the Left wins. We’ve had many cases of 4 Liberals voting for the distraction candidate, meaning the result comes out 47 Left, 4 Left-2, 49 Right, and 49 is more than 47 so all 51 left-leaning voters now get to deal with what we dealt with in 2000-2008 and 2016-2020.
Trump has made it clear he means to dispense with Democracy if he wins in November. Your Stein or Kennedy or no-vote increases the chance that happens. It sucks that we have to play this stupid game every election with picking the lesser evil, but let’s be clear. The Republicans have sensed the angry Leftists energy in the room, and are gleefully counting on that to ensure they never have to actually win another election ever again.
And everyone here pushing the meme that we should stay home or vote third party in November is doing the Republicans dirty deeds for them. When I see a post bashing Biden and not mentioning Trump, this is what I see:
A useful idiot who doesn’t know they are playing into Trump’s/the GOP’s hands (Stein and her supporters).
An opportunistic jerk hoping to make money off of dissatisfaction on the Left (No Labels, RFK jr).
A rightwing plant leveraging our dissention to win 2024 and thus subject us to Project 2025.
The census from what I see is that people here don’t like Biden. But, like most uncommitted, it’s very likely they’ll vote Biden for harm reduction. I don’t know why you’re being down-voted for that though.
At the end of the day, you’re correct that Biden has to be voted in again, and the downballot is more crucial.
I have literally been called a sabatour to the democratic party for questioning Biden on this website. For context it was when he finally said something about abortion, not long ago, and I said something to the effect of ‘So…he’s waiting to make this a reelection issue?’ For literally 24 hours I received hate for that. and was flat out told saying that is an attempt to get Trump elected. So…nah. I wouldn’t say this place in general doesn’t like him. I would say this place worships him the way the right worships Trump.
And everyone getting downvoted in this post for not carving his name into their arm to show reverence for his ‘harsh words’ kinda proves that yo.
Lemmy is entering the full trollfarm phase now that it’s an election year. Neoliberals and “moderates” are wandering around not knowing what words mean but expecting everyone to vote blue no matter who, anarchists are yelling at all the fascists (anyone not a anarchist or demsoc), tankies are going mask off and not even pretending to care about seizing the means, and the Reddit IPO has done the worst thing of all.
Driven some actual “conservatives” into the Fediverse 🤢
lol anyone who calls him out for the fact he is part of funding this keeps getting downvoted to oblivion. lemmy is the /r/conservative of the liberal world. Just another echo chamber that lashes out when you question their god.
You are 110% correct about this, but don’t expect the gaslighting to stop
e; eh, on reflection you’re more like 65% correct about this. There are definitely way too many users who act just as you describe, but there are some dissenting voices here and the moderation has been ok in my experience (some decisions I disagree with but I haven’t experienced any of the super toxic power mod-ish behavior).
lol anyone who calls him out for the fact he is part of funding this keeps getting downvoted to oblivion. lemmy is the /r/conservative of the liberal world. Just another echo chamber that lashes out when you question their god.
And, yes…im still voting for him because obviously Trump will be a million times worse, especially in this particular situation.
Lol idk what fediverse you’re living in. This one strongly, strongly leans super far left. And not the left that likes Biden.
Ah…so…then…why is everyone getting downvoted for calling him out? It is consistent with what I am saying and my experience since I joined .world…
I think that some people come out and are critical, but then say they aren’t going to vote for him, or push something just a bit further. Tone also makes a difference.
There’s two options in November, one is worse for Palestine than the other.
Because 9/10 they are re-posts, and more often than not the exact same fucking article.
Like the fucking dick cheese that kept posting poll after poll after poll so much that I blocked his ass.
I am very clearly talking about right here and now in this post. Err…did I miss something? Did A lot of comments get deleted?
The only downvoted comments I’m seeing here are on your posts complaining about downvotes. The top comment is calling out Biden and 3-to-1 upvoted. Vote Blue occasionally shows up early in a random post and sets the tone, but most Gaza posts are very much favoring antiwar/progressive sentiment.
world is standard centrist neolibs all the way down. in fact the admins have already preemptively defederated with leftist instances. their loss!
Yes I saw that, it’s really disappointing.
Yeah, from what I’ve seen the downvotes on anti-war comments are mostly when it looks like it could be one of those “I’ll never vote for Biden because of it” people based on the context of the post/comment chain, even if that’s not explicitly said. Basically you have to explicitly say “But still, fuck Trump” for yo protect from the downvotes lol
Yeah, this is why I downvote posts critical of Biden with no mention of Trump. November is a choice between two options.
I know, I know. “But jhymesba, there’s Jill Stein and Robert Kennedy!”
Here’s a simple fact about how our country works. Every vote for Stein or Kennedy is a vote against Biden, and though Stein and Biden are on the left side of the spectrum, we don’t get to add their votes up during the election. If 100 people vote, and 51 vote for candidates on the Left, and 49 vote for candidates on the right, that doesn’t mean the Left wins. We’ve had many cases of 4 Liberals voting for the distraction candidate, meaning the result comes out 47 Left, 4 Left-2, 49 Right, and 49 is more than 47 so all 51 left-leaning voters now get to deal with what we dealt with in 2000-2008 and 2016-2020.
Trump has made it clear he means to dispense with Democracy if he wins in November. Your Stein or Kennedy or no-vote increases the chance that happens. It sucks that we have to play this stupid game every election with picking the lesser evil, but let’s be clear. The Republicans have sensed the angry Leftists energy in the room, and are gleefully counting on that to ensure they never have to actually win another election ever again.
And everyone here pushing the meme that we should stay home or vote third party in November is doing the Republicans dirty deeds for them. When I see a post bashing Biden and not mentioning Trump, this is what I see:
All three of those deserve downvotes in my book.
The census from what I see is that people here don’t like Biden. But, like most uncommitted, it’s very likely they’ll vote Biden for harm reduction. I don’t know why you’re being down-voted for that though.
At the end of the day, you’re correct that Biden has to be voted in again, and the downballot is more crucial.
I have literally been called a sabatour to the democratic party for questioning Biden on this website. For context it was when he finally said something about abortion, not long ago, and I said something to the effect of ‘So…he’s waiting to make this a reelection issue?’ For literally 24 hours I received hate for that. and was flat out told saying that is an attempt to get Trump elected. So…nah. I wouldn’t say this place in general doesn’t like him. I would say this place worships him the way the right worships Trump.
And everyone getting downvoted in this post for not carving his name into their arm to show reverence for his ‘harsh words’ kinda proves that yo.
Lemmy is entering the full trollfarm phase now that it’s an election year. Neoliberals and “moderates” are wandering around not knowing what words mean but expecting everyone to vote blue no matter who, anarchists are yelling at all the fascists (anyone not a anarchist or demsoc), tankies are going mask off and not even pretending to care about seizing the means, and the Reddit IPO has done the worst thing of all.
Driven some actual “conservatives” into the Fediverse 🤢
You are 110% correct about this, but don’t expect the gaslighting to stop
e; eh, on reflection you’re more like 65% correct about this. There are definitely way too many users who act just as you describe, but there are some dissenting voices here and the moderation has been ok in my experience (some decisions I disagree with but I haven’t experienced any of the super toxic power mod-ish behavior).
I think you just mean “an echo chamber”, but based on the vote count I think things are less certain than you let on
Huh? That’s, like, the top comment.