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The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president’s voice, says, “Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again.”
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Fortunately only Republicans are stupid enough to listen to their leader when they are told not to vote
You’d be surprised. Democrats are already less likely to vote than republicans are. There is a lot of “my vote doesn’t matter so why bother” rhetoric among poor democrats.
Not to mention the “gEnOciDe jOe” morons.
They’re gonna vote for him to prevent Trump again
I’ve spoken with MANY who say they aren’t.
I haven’t.
Well, I guess that must mean they don’t exist. Glad you cleared that up!
I’m sure they do, but “many” I dunno. They sound like morons who want Trump.
Yeah, no. This will trick a lot of people. Because they are idiots, regardless of who they align with politically.
You’re spot on. The average voter is kinda uninformed about most issues. Think how dumb the dumbest 20% must be.
Exactly. Yosemite has said they have a hard time coming up with bear-proof trash cans just because “there is a considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists,” and those dumbest tourists who can’t figure out a trash can vote.
You also need to consider how motivated your average bear is, compared to a tourist putting trash away.
I don’t know. Democrats stay home over single-issue matters and stubbornness.
I wish.
Well somebody’s going to prison
Doubtful.
This is the sort of crime the feds take seriously. Like you aren’t winding up in uncle Ted’s old cell, but you’re definitely gonna spend some time in front of a judge
Doesn’t this ultimately backfire and train ppl to not blindly follow information?
It goes both ways. They ignore real and fake messages
Yep, people only care about the truth when it is easily acquired.
That may not have been the point of the robo calls, but it definitely works towards the Republican’s agenda.
Narrator: Unfortunately it did not train people to not blindly follow information
And the government and the telcos let this shit happen because to fix it would cost rich people money and we can’t have that.
Republicans will never stop trying to steal elections.
Seems like the vast majority of voter fraud crimes surrounding the 2020 election were engineered by Republicans. In my neck of the woods, all three caught voting with dead relatives’ ballots were registered as Republican. Two ladies ® thought they could register as their non-voting kids, and wouldn’t have been caught except that the kids decided to vote. The sole Democrat was a guy who provisionally voted while he was still on parole.
Nationally, all the big vote tampering was done by Republicans.
I would hope that if people are voting for Biden that they are smart enough to not fall for these kinds of things. I could definitely see Trump supporters falling for something like this if Donald Trump called them, but I hope that Biden supporters are a little smarter.
Here we go again….and again
It starts… This will be the year to decide if we can have functioning information systems and safe, democratic elections in the emerging age of easy AI manipulation.
It’s a bad sign that there are no widely, commercially available free tools (from governments or otherwise) to help us confirm the validity of these things. We likely need something as ubiquitous as “googling” to stand against the incoming avalanche of truly fake information.
There will be elections across the globe this year to truly test humanity. I’m hopeful, but I fear we aren’t close to ready. Think about what you would do if you suspected a political manipulation was AI generated today? That’s one aspect, and you’re on Lemmy so you’re likely a bit more capable with technology generally (and you probably still don’t know what to do). Now, think about your grandmother in Milwaukee… what will she do?
I know this is bad and everything, but it is kind of funny.
I don’t get it. How does a message telling Democrats not to vote help Republicans in the primary?
I think this is the reason:
New Hampshire holds closed primaries, which means Democrats and Republicans can only vote in their own party’s primaries. But independent voters, those who are not affiliated with either party, can vote in either primary — and they make up nearly 40 percent of New Hampshire’s electorate.
So really, independent voters who lean left are being encouraged to stay home. Presumably this helps the far-right candidate.
It’s to throw off Nikki Haley winning the nomination. She’s VERY popular in NH. I’m up there playing in the snow and ice every weekend and see a more NH than Trump signs.
This is definitely a plausible explanation but I’m trying to figure why those people would listen to Joe Biden
They are (I) voters that are likely to vote (D) in the general and there is a serious attempt to ratfuck Trump in NH by getting these left leaning (I) voters to vote Haley in the ® primary.
So… this fake robocall is an Uno reverse card ratfuck trying to get those people to stay home.
This exactly. Hell, I live in MA and I’m trying to rat-fuck the primaries.
Gotcha, makes sense. Thanks
It doesn’t, but they are too stupid to realize it
Now there’s an idea. Let’s do the same thing with Trump’s voice. His base is stupid enough to obey.
What are democrats voting for, on tuesday? Isn’t it the republican primary?
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If we had those sorts of standards for posting on Lemmy, we wouldn’t be able to get super cogent viewpoints like yours, though!
it amuses me that the OC is… suggesting something that would probably be used to disenfranchise his rights.
We should outlaw stupidity in congress. pitch it to both sides as letting them arrest the other. Then arrest both sides and start from scratch.
now we’re playing 4d chess!
I think it’s a tragedy that we let people who are borderline retarded cast ballots at all.
You deserve to get lambasted for that. That’s a horrible thing to say.
The very core of democracy is the idea that individuals have the right to make choices in how they live their lives, and that the power to govern derives from the consent of the government. What you’re saying is that there’s an arbitrary line of intelligence below which you don’t accept someone’s ability to consent, and you deny their right to make choices about their lives.
I think that’s the tragedy here.
That’s already the case. If someone is deemed to be mentally unfit (retarded is NOT a slur it is legitimately a medical term and you people are too sensitive), they cannot vote. It’s ALREADY a thing.
retarded is NOT a slur it is legitimately a medical term and you people are too sensitive
It’s actually not.
they cannot vote
They actually can.
You seem to have a serious problem with facts and with discrimination.
You’re spouting false bullshit, and you’re prejudiced.
You’re exactly the kind of person who should not be allowed to vote, but luckily for you being a stupid, wrong, bigoted asshole does not revoke your rights.
They actually can.
https://i.redd.it/45h41oozgag21.png
Wrong again. They CANNOT.
Wishing for something to be the way you want, does NOT make it the way you want. Calling someone a bigot for telling you factual information just shows how brainwashed you are.
Here’s the same with restriction on owning firearms:
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/mental-health-prohibitor/We CAN, and ALREADY DO restrict the voting rights of those who fail to pass a certain bar of intelligence and or mental continuity.
And as for retarded:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/11/AR2010021103896.htmlThe term “mentally retarded” was itself introduced by the medical establishment in the 20th century to supplant other terms that had been deemed offensive.
By the 1960s, “mental retardation” became the preferred medical term, gradually replacing previous diagnostic standards such as “idiot,” “imbecile” and “moron” – terms that had come to carry pejorative connotations.
The term “retardation” was common in my home and life, but it was sterile and clinical.
So how about you educate yourself some…
No, man.
You came in here posting absolutely disgusting ableist slurs and spewing discriminatory bullshit that’s not true. Then after you get called out on it by everyone, you’ve start changing your tune, cherry picking specific circumstances that if that had been what you originally said, we’d have ended up in a different conversation. But instead we’re having this garbage conversation that you decided to start.
And as for “hey look, people used this word in the 60s all the time!” I’ll point you to every other slur, whether ableist, racist, sexist, or whatever. You know what? People used them all in the past with impunity. That doesn’t make it ok to use them today.
Instead of just Googling things that support your prejudice and confirm your existing biases, try searching for the counterarguments.
I didn’t change my tune at all, this is exactly what I was referring to, but you kneejerk reactionaries decided I was being “not nice” and that was good enough reason for you to dismiss me. “Ableist” is just another way for you to claim victimization, because that’s all the internet is now. Everyone rushing to claim victim as fast as possible because that justifies any action they take. It justifies not actually holding a discussion, because you’ve been “wronged”.
Grow the hell up and actually discuss the topic at hand, instead of attacking the person, their characteristics, and which “team” you think they play for or ulterior motives they have. All of lemmy is populated with you victimization weirdos like it’s some sort of fetish you have to be persecuted.
The original point I made, was that our democracy is at stake if some simple robocalls to idiots, morons, and retards can change the course of our nation. Robocalls don’t have to come from other US Citizens, so allowing this is tantamount to allowing other nations to control our voting.
Mods here will keep deleting my PERFECTLY valid argument, because they dislike the TYPES of words that I use. It doesn’t make my argument less valid. In this particular instance, I am referring directly to intelligence and its hand in the direction of our governing. Intelligence isn’t something I am “discriminating” against here, I am using it in a technical sense to describe the problems that it comes with. But you can’t see the fucking forest for the trees.
NORMAL people have these discussions on the daily. They don’t just turn around and walk away because someone said “retard”. Grow a thicker skin for fucks sake you absolute child.
The original point I made
The only point you’ve made is that you’re a bigot who is not interested in honest discussion. And you keep making it by repeating the same bullshit.
Grow a thicker skin for fucks sake you absolute child.
Says the guy whining about mods deleting his content.
I’ll hand it to you – you’ve put on a masterclass-worthy performance of a bigot having a breakdown because nobody takes him seriously. You’ve blamed me, you’ve blamed the mods, and you’ve blamed lemmy. The only person who hasn’t done anything wrong here is you.
When everyone in the world is giving you problems, it’s time to consider that maybe you’re the problem. And if the users and mods on lemmy are too harsh for you, then maybe you should go back to Truth Social or wherever the big-brained adults like yourself hang out.
To clarify a point I don’t think the people replying have specifically pointed out enough already: this line of thinking is contrary to a representative democracy. If some people aren’t worthy of voting, then they aren’t worthy of being represented by their government (e.g. slaves, felons, children). That’s the main disagreement I have with that idea.
If you truly believe there’s a measurable line for intelligence/competence below which people shouldn’t vote, are you worried there are so many people in that group that it would affect the outcome? If that’s true, then don’t they deserve representation? This problem is solved if everyone votes. Shouldn’t we just try to educate people instead of creating another marginalized group?
Removed, ableist slur. :(
