• @[email protected]
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    Without providing an alternative, this infographic (not a meme) is useless to me. For all I know, every other kind of trouser is worse. Without a source for the data, it could all just be lies.

    • Pennomi
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      Anything but nudism is unethical!

    • @AA5B
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      The biggest problem is that artificial fabrics are better if you only use these measures. Nylon doesn’t require arable land, or fertilizers, nor take the place of food production. Nylon is much lighter so far more efficient to ship. I don’t know about manufacturing water or co2, but I wouldn’t be surprised if nylon wins.

      This is why it’s not that easy. This is why “plastics” will be impossible to stop using. Do we really think it’s beneficial to continue down the path of fewer natural fabrics, even if common metrics say it is?

      As you said , we need alternatives, including why. Some of that may be additional metrics (anyone concerned about micro plastics in wastewater?). Otherwise this just creates stress and hopelessness.

    • ZephrC
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      I mean, I’m pretty sure I couldn’t hide 2,600 gallons of water in my jeans.

      • @Narauko
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        810 months ago

        May I introduce you to JNCO?

      • @WhiteOakBayou
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        710 months ago

        The dad jeans the young women are wearing have wider legs to hide all the extra water

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    This overlooks that 100% cotton jeans will break down when they are discarded (unlike polyester and nylon). A good pair of jeans can be mended and worn for many years instead of a new pair every year. Jeans can lead a very useful “after life” as insulation or be recycled into new fabric.

    It also ignores the chemicals and energy required to turn beechwood and bamboo into wearable fabric.

    I don’t know what the solution is but natural fabrics aren’t the enemy.

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      you make a good point about how clothing doesn’t just exist for the life of the first wearing. Impact also looks largely at how it’s discarded and washed and that is a huge factor.

      Cotton isnt leaving behind microplastics in your water like polyester. So even the shower claim is non comparable. At least the water is left cleaner with with cotton.

      But then we can’t be too ideal like they aren’t taking up space on the planet to produce. Like how people were about ecars Vs combustible.

      Cotton is just the lesser evil here.

    • @PainInTheAES
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      My friend are you completely ignoring ethical nudism here? Fabric and clothing is just a capitalist mind game to shame you into covering yourself. We were born naked and goddammit I’ll die naked.

      Eschew the tank top and embrace tankie topless.

      /s

      (Let’s bring back flour sack clothing tho)

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    For something I can easily wear for a decade this seems like it might be less impactful than other alternatives.

  • @jpreston2005
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    “-And at home you’re probably using harmful detergents”

    Wow, fuck off meme. I’m gonna buy more jeans than ever now

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    You could take 2400 showers (based on 30 second shower time)

    Who takes a 6 minute shower, unless they’re in a drought?

  • Stern
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    so ur saying all the boys should wear skirts

    and maybe thigh high stockings

    hmm

    • @Viking_Hippie
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      910 months ago

      But where do trans women hide their 2600 gallons of water?

    • hswolf
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      710 months ago

      I wear handmade modern kilts, they’re pretty good

  • Pennomi
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    100 square feet of land per pair of jeans sounds downright reasonable to me.

    • @FireRetardant
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      Defintely more reasonable than leather pants. And if we changed the dyes/chemical treatments, 100% cotton jeans could be biodegradable with their zippers and buttons removed which is better than materials like polyester. Of course most jeans these days are a mix of materials.

      • Pennomi
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        I mean, I think an all natural color pair of jeans would be badass; I’d buy that.

        • @FireRetardant
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          Wouldn’t that just be white cotton? Or do you mean natural colored dyes?

          • Pennomi
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            510 months ago

            White cotton but without the bleaching, so more off white, I guess. I’m not actually sure what it would be.

            • @WhiteOakBayou
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              Probably like linen yellow/brown but uneven

              • @boatsnhos931
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                So kinda a piss/soiled color. Sign me up!! Please charge me more so I feel like I’m helping the environment more than other people.

    • @hydrospanner
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      Right?

      That made me suspicious of the methodology on all the other points.

      I’m a guy with short hair, so I’ve probably got the shortest possible shower, and even going fast I’m around 10 minutes. If I’m not in a hurry and use the specific face scrub and a separate conditioner I’m in the 15-18 range.

  • Dr. Coomer
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    Got it, use California to make jeans.

  • @WhiteOakBayou
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    The oddest thing about this to me is how multiple people have said they take longer than 6 minute showers. That’s crazy to me.

    • Nepenthe
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      It probably takes me that long just to wash and rinse my hair.

    • @WhiteOakBayou
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      110 months ago

      Lots of people stepping out of the shower to downvote