• @RealFknNito
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          336 months ago

          Mood debuff from the game Rimworld where if you spend too long without going outside, you get a severe penalty.

          In other words, being underground for long (or indefinite) periods would probably have a profoundly negative effect on people’s moods.

          • SSTF
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            256 months ago

            That’s why it is important to do sociological testing on earth first. Putting groups of humans in, let’s call them vaults, to test reactions to isolation and lack of surface contact.

            • @RealFknNito
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              Yes, yes and then we do experiments on them without their knowledge to gauge how they react as opposed to control vaults. We should also name this department something fitting. Since they’re working on new technologies with vaults maybe something like… Vault-tec

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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      66 months ago

      My plan is to use concentrated sunlight to tunnel directly through an asteroid and use the material to build a small O’Neill cylinder inside. The rest of the rock would provide radiation shielding so the cylinder would be cheaper to construct, and we can send sunlight into the cylinder from either end using the same mirrors we carved the asteroid with.

    • @[email protected]
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      146 months ago

      Seems to be making the point that it would be kind of dumb to spread across the solar system just making the other planets just as messed up as what we are currently doing on Earth.

      • @BluesF
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        116 months ago

        There’s not so much to mess up on, say, Mars. I mean the terrain is interesting in its way but it’s not like we’d be annihilating complex ecosystems like we are here on earth. We would have to establish significant ecosystems anywhere we settled, in fact.

        • @[email protected]
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          56 months ago

          Honestly making all our corporate bullshit buildings on other barren planets would be way better than acting like a cancer on the ecosystem on earth. If we manage to become space fairing, I hope they can restore earth and reduce our spread on it. We don’t need concrete jungles.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        26 months ago

        It would be dumb unless we leave earth and turn it into a nature preserve

    • @Mango
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      What is saying is that our style of life is stupid and boring compared to our ambitions. It’s why I don’t bother traveling. Little bit of different geography and I’m still just hanging out inside for comfort and amenities.

      This kind of thing is why I’m most interested in abstractions and stuff like dancing.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s why I don’t bother traveling. Little bit of different geography and I’m still just hanging out inside for comfort and amenities.

        Have you considered not staying at a resort/cruise ship? Like yeah I don’t understand why people who just hang out inside travel either, that’s why I don’t do that.

        • @Mango
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          16 months ago

          I just stay home.

            • @Mango
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              16 months ago

              Like what? Different shapes of rock?

              • @[email protected]
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                16 months ago

                I mean if you’re really into geology, sure. I find the people and their cultures a lot more interesting though.

                • @Mango
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                  16 months ago

                  I tend to keep to myself.

    • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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      486 months ago

      Ironically, between Venus’ earth-like gravity and high atmospheric density, it might actually be easier to build cloud colonies on Venus than ground colonies on Mars.

      • Jack Riddle
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        196 months ago

        Except that venus is just absolutely hostile to everything

        • zout
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          Nah, we just need to crash Mercury into the surface of Venus, get the rotation sorted out and a moon going. After that, buildings.

        • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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          146 months ago

          Yep, yet it’s my understanding that it’d be easier to colonize Venus than Mars. Venus is closer, Venus’ gravity is similar to Earth’s, the air is extremely dense which means balloons would be very effective, iirc Venus has more opportunities for inter-planetary transit, high-altitude temperatures (where the balloons would float) are more similar to Earth’s, etc.

          • @wolfpack86
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            -26 months ago

            Okay, so make a blimp rover already if it’s so easy.

            • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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              46 months ago

              Sure, lemme just waltz over to my money tree and harvest some cash.

              I didn’t say it wouldn’t still be obscenely expensive.

          • @[email protected]
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            46 months ago

            I think the theory is that it proves that ones favorite -ism that starts with c- is objectively superior to ones least favorite -ism that starts with c-.

        • @hedgehogging_the_bed
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          56 months ago

          That’s why balloons! You can have sick blimps on Venus and IIRC you can capture atmospheric gasses to burn as fuel for them and to create water too.

      • @Makeitstop
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        36 months ago

        In the long term, it’s also possible to alter the atmosphere on Venus until it’s approximately the same as Earth. It would be a massive undertaking, but a hell of a lot easier than getting Mars to a comfortably habitable state. And you could potentially get an entire habitable planet out of the deal, which would be nice.

        Kurzgesagt had an interesting video on the topic.

        Obviously it would take a significant investment of resources that would benefit some future generation, but not our own. So, back to being impossible, at least for now.

        • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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          126 months ago

          They’ve come up with a way they could do it. I dunno why you’re mad about that, I was just wanting to share an interesting tidbit I’d learned.

          My understanding is that the reason why scientists like playing with the idea is that it’s more feasible than it immediately seems, and it’d solve some of the issues that a Mars colony would have (increased solar radiation due to low atmospheric density and weak electromagnetic field as well at very low gravity).

          Would it be expensive? Yeah. We’re talking about colonizing another planet though. It already is going to cost hundreds of billions if not trillions to do.

    • FuglyDuck
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      126 months ago

      I remember reading some old sci-fi that thought Venus was going to be paradise. The next earth.

      Then they found out how awful it really was.

      • @[email protected]
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        56 months ago

        Yeah, lot of “Alien from venus!!” stuff. Too bad all the planets and moons are FAR from hospitable, we’d be better off fixing our own planet than trying to build a new one from scratch

        • @GoofSchmoofer
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          56 months ago

          Yeah but people and corporations would have to change and that’s too difficult instead we should do something easy like colonize another planet. /s

  • @marcos
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    56 months ago

    City planners wouldn’t allow more buildings on Earth…

    • @reinei
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      26 months ago

      But we need to build more pylons (into space)!

  • @Sam_Bass
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    36 months ago

    Most vermin on this planet reflexively build nests all over the place to accommodate population growth. Its a sickness