• @edwardbear
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    12922 days ago

    Oh, if they PROMISE.

    Fuck Adobe. I’ll pirate PS and AI until I die. Greedy fucking pigboys.

    • Refurbished Refurbisher
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      8522 days ago

      Pirating Adobe software is exactly what they want you to do. Their business model relies on businesses paying for their license because people already know how to use their software, in large part because people pirate it, and also they have deals with schools to teach their software.

      What Adobe actually doesn’t want you to do is to learn the software of their competition, since that’s how they will lose money in the long term.

      • @[email protected]
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        3122 days ago

        This. Right here.

        The main reason we need to push for open source alternatives is this. The more people learn how to use them the more content around them we get and more people take interest in using it and helping develop it (and donate to it).

        • @disguy_ovahea
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          I went to Affinity Photo and Illustrator years ago, and I’m a fan. One time purchase, easy to use, and full tutorials from the creators on Vimeo. Only downside is that it’s only available on Apple devices. Turns out it’s available on Windows now too.

          https://affinity.serif.com

          • @[email protected]
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            522 days ago

            Affinity is also on Windows - at least Designer is. I’ve been using it for a couple of years now.

            • @disguy_ovahea
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              My mistake. That’s good to know! I’ll edit my comment for clarity. I think they launched as Apple only years ago. I’m glad to hear they’re growing.

          • @[email protected]
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            522 days ago

            And it’s a huge downside. Meanwhile open source apps are usually available on every platform, with no purchase required.

            • @disguy_ovahea
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              522 days ago

              I hear you. I used to use GIMP before I paid for PS. I bailed when Adobe went subscription, and figured I’d try Affinity for $10. It’s worth every penny. I’d get behind an open source alternative again if it met my needs.

              • @[email protected]
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                422 days ago

                I can understand it, I almost paid for Davinci Resolve Studio due to it still being the most complete video editor that works on Linux, most of the time closed source apps function better (specially due to the biggest funding), but still, using open source whenever you can basically prevents this from ever happening (specially after Canva bought Affinity, I’d keep an eye out for the eventual enshittification)

          • @HarriPotero
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            221 days ago

            And they have a -50% flash sale.

            Imagine that timing.

        • 🖖USS-Ethernet
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          422 days ago

          Is there an open source PDF editor? I would really love anything other than acrobat.

      • @edwardbear
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        222 days ago

        I use Figma at work hahaha

    • @SacredHeartAttack
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      1522 days ago

      That 15 yr old cracked CS5 I have on an old hard drive is looking mighty scrumptious right now.

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      Those are the easiest apps to replace. I’ll just use Gimp and Inkscape until I die. Not even tempted by Adobe’s bloat, spyware, etc.

    • @Jakdracula
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      322 days ago

      Does the PS pirate version have the Ai stuff, removal features and such?

      • @edwardbear
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        1722 days ago

        the pirate stuff lets me control what version I want / need.

      • @glimse
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        522 days ago

        It won’t have anything that relies on “the cloud”

        When you use the AI services in Photoshop, it tries to connect to their servers. But to crack Photoshop, you need to blacklist all those servers. If you try to, say, use the automatic background removal tool, Photoshop will give you a message saying that it will run the (worse) version locally because it can’t connect.

        Not that I’d know or anything. A friend of a friend told me. Basically a stranger. Don’t even know his name.

        • @Jakdracula
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          322 days ago

          Right, Since it can’t call home, the advanced features will not work or at least not work as described, is that correct?

          • @glimse
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            That is correct. Most (all?) of the services are run on Adobe servers, not locally

  • @JeeBaiChow
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    Every time we trusted a large tech promise on an unverifiable claim, they ended up shafting us. Just sayin’.

  • @[email protected]
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    6222 days ago

    Guys, seriously. The entire Affinity Suite is $150. Paid for updates through the current version. It’s solid.

    Dump Adobe.

    • @[email protected]
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      1722 days ago

      even better, use the money you’d pay for adobe suite and donate to open source alternatives

      • @makyo
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        422 days ago

        I’m going to give Krita a try for some of the photobashing sort of stuff I do

        • @[email protected]
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          122 days ago

          I can totally recommend it, during the time I worked with design it was the closest I could get to photoshop when it comes to features and workflow, even more than GIMP, it’s awesome!

    • @makyo
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      1222 days ago

      I’m on their site now and the full suite is on sale - €90, not sure if that’s the same for everyone’s local schnorples.

      • @[email protected]
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        822 days ago

        Please reconsider.

        Since Affinity have been recently acquired by Canva, many of its users doubt that perpetual license will be respected.

        Just look at the comments of its announcement.

      • @[email protected]
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        422 days ago

        Nice! I got it right after the latest version came out but that’s been a while. They do sales pretty regularly though. It’s definitely not as massive as Adobe wrt features, but they cover the essentials well.

    • @PopOfAfrica
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      1022 days ago

      Would love to, but they are neglecting Linux Support.

      • @tsonfeir
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        122 days ago

        I hear you, but so is adobe. Linux isn’t in this conversation.

          • @tsonfeir
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            022 days ago

            The conversation should be the lack of competition in the image manipulation space and on Linux.

            Most of my software boxes have been ticked, but that’s a major deterrent for a daily driver.

    • LCP
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      922 days ago

      It’s 50% off right now.

      • @PopOfAfrica
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        922 days ago

        Thats outdated. Only version 1 ran on bottles, and quite poorly. V2 is busted

    • @[email protected]
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      222 days ago

      Doesn’t replace Lightroom Classic sadly. Affinity is good, but literally nothing compares (no darktable isn’t anywhere as good)

    • @fluckx
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      222 days ago

      When i see stuff like that I want to buy it. And then I remember I’m not a graphic designer. And unfortunately I’m terrible at any type of layouting or drawing. Be it webdesign or otherwise.

      It looks like a great tool though. And very fairly priced.

  • @OhmsLawn
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    4922 days ago

    claims that the company often uses machine learning to review user projects for signs of illegal content

    OK, so what happens when Florida starts deciding more content is illegal?

    Literally big brother shit.

  • @retrospectology
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    4522 days ago

    I’m betting the reason they want access to “moderate” your projects is to train their AI. Literally looking to steal artists work before it’s out the door.

    • @ytsedude
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      That’s absolutely what’s going on.

      A fun way to combat this would be to get every artist to add giant, throbbing dicks to everything they create in Photoshop with the hope that it creates the thirstiest, nastiest AI model out there.

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        Not just dicks, but dicks mixed with other art so it just completely pollutes the training data and the AI has no idea how to draw anything without it kind of looking like a dick. Dicks with human and animal faces, boats shaped like dicks, dick buildings and landscapes etc.

        It would take an immense amount of bad data to actually work, but it would be funny.

  • @fluckx
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    4422 days ago

    Here’s a License change which implies we’re datafarming all your assets.

    Here’s my word that we’re absolutely not goijf to be doing that. Trust me bro.

  • @[email protected]
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    Riiiight. And, pray tell Adobe, why in the everloving fuck woul you ever need to “review” private content that’s not posted anywhere? Stop acting like you’re the goddamned pre-crime agency from Minority Report and keep your dirty paws off stuff people are creating privately.

    You are providing tools, and that’s it. I can do horrible, illegal shit with my drill, but it doesn’t give Black&Decker any right to break into my house to do random checks and see if I’m drilling through kneecaps instead of wooden planks…

  • @[email protected]
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    3422 days ago

    Dear Adobe:

    I. Don’t. Believe. You.

    regards,

    Me. And probably your entire end-user base.

  • @CosmoNova
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    2622 days ago

    Because when someone presents you a lengthy document. One that describes all the ways they claim ownership of your work (and work in progress) - in detail - it only matters how much they really mean what’s written down? Let me spare you the sarcasm and just say this doesn’t communicate the professionalism professionals are demanding. Quite the opposite.

  • @cley_faye
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    1422 days ago

    Interesting, we get to either hate them for going full big brother, or hate them for going full adobe in the first place. It’s nice to have a choice sometimes.

  • @asteriskeverything
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    1422 days ago

    But did they super duper pinky promise, cross their heart, hope to die, poke a needle in their eye??

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    “Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content. Firefly generative AI models are trained on a dataset of licensed content, such as Adobe Stock, and public domain content where copyright has expired.”

    This references a single particular product. lol. If they’re training a model by a different name with customer data, it would still be a true statement.

    The points about lawyers and NDA’s hit the nail on the head. I thought something similar with the Windows Recall debacle. That’s a juicy set of data for anyone looking to find journalist sources or scrape a hospital’s network. In every case it relies on the end user (business or individual) to know how to disable those features with GPOs/registry options… There’s no way 100% of them realize the issue and have the knowledge to fix it.